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Nigel Farage COULD do a deal with the Tories (but only if they sack Cameron)

Nigel Farage COULD do a deal with the Tories (but only if they sack Cameron) | Race & Crime UK | Scoop.it
Tory vice-chairman Michael Fabricant suggested an electoral pact with the Eurosceptic party, but Mr Farage (pictured) says he could only work with someone pragmatic like Michael Gove.

 

UK Independence Party leader Nigel Farage today suggested he could form an electoral pact with the Conservatives - but only if they ditch David Cameron as leader.
As the war of words between the two parties escalated, Mr Farage claimed he could work with a new 'pragmatic' leader like Michael Gove.
The row erupted after Tory vice chairman Michael Fabricant, who is in charge of Parliamentary campaigning, warned the Prime Minister a deal with UKIP is vital to reunite 'warring brothers'.
Tory party chairman Grant Shapps 'categorically' ruled out a pact with UKIP.
Mr Farage had rejected an electoral deal with the Tories, declaring 'war' on the Conservatives at the next election.
But today he said the main obstacle to doing a deal was Mr Cameron, who famously once described UKIP as 'a bunch of fruit cakes and loonies and closet racist'
Mr Farage said: 'If Cameron went and somebody pragmatic, grown up and sensible like Michael Gove was leader, you might think then we could sit around the table and have a proper discussion... open-minded, doesn't throw abuse around and thinks issues through - he would be the right kind of person.
'It's very difficult for us to believe anything David Cameron says, because after all, he gave us a cast-iron guarantee that we'd have a referendum [on the Lisbon Treaty] and it hasn't happened,' he told BBC2's Daily Politics.

Yesterday he took to Twitter to reject the idea of being offered a ministerial post in exchange for not standing against Conservative MPs, writing: 'No pact with Tories: it's war.'
He went on to claim that the 'Fabricant deal seems to be based on buying me off. UKIP is bigger than that'.

Mr Farage added: 'I'm in politics because of my beliefs not because I'm a career politician like so many these days.'
Mr Fabricant made his explosive proposal for a pact in a report for Mr Cameron seen by Mail Online. He insisted securing the smaller party's support by committing to an early in/out EU referendum and giving Mr Farage a ministerial position would help the Tories win 20 to 30 extra seats in 2015.
Under the terms of the pact being suggested by the Tory vice chairman, UKIP would agree not to field candidates against Conservative MPs in exchange for the referendum pledge and a Government post for its leader.
He is due to outline the idea over 'social drinks' with Mr Cameron tonight.
But Tory party chairman Grant Shapps insisted no deal would be done. 'I want to win the next election outright of course for the Conservatives so that we have an outright majority and we don’t have to be in coalition,' he told BBC Radio 4’s The World at One.
'But I want to do that with Conservative candidates fighting and winning on their own ground and on their own terms and that is exactly what we are going to do.
'So I can categorically rule out any form of electoral pact with Ukip or anyone else.'
Mr Fabricant insists offering a pact with UKIP 'would not be a sign of weakness by the Conservative Party. It would be a pragmatic extension of existing philosophy from a party of Government'.
'Moreover, this could mark the final rapprochement between warring brothers.'
But Downing Street today slapped down Mr Fabricant, insisting: 'He does not speak for the party on electoral strategy. We will be standing in every seat. There is no thinking about a pact.'
In a sign of growing frustration among Tory backbenchers, MP Stewart Jackson responded on Twitter: 'Electoral strategy?!?! Problem is no one does!'

Tory relations with UKIP have been dire since 2006 when Mr Cameron declared: 'UKIP is sort of a bunch of fruit cakes and loonies and closet racists mostly.'
But Mr Fabricant insisted: 'He [Mr Cameron] wasn't too keen on the Lib Dems either before the last election. Anything is possible.' Mr Fabricant said Mr Farage was a 'former Thatcherite, who sounds like a Conservative, who looks like a Conservative, and in other circumstances probably would be a Conservative'.
But Mr Farage is still furious at the remark, insisting Mr Cameron 'alone in British politics today continues to throw this slur at us that because we believe in not having our law set in Europe and controlling our borders that somehow that is racist'.
'If he wants an electoral war with my party on his immigration open door policy he can have one,' he told Sky News.
The conflict between the two party's has been heightened by the row over the decision by Labour-run Rotherham council to remove three young children from their foster parents because the couple were UKIP members.
The move by social workers from Rotherham Borough Council has prompted condemnation from politicians of all parties. The controversy is expected to boost UKIP's showing in a by-election in the South Yorkshire town on Thursday.
Today, in a statement issued through UKIP, the couple said: 'We are surprised there has been no apology from Rotherham Borough Council and feel they are hiding behind the complexity of this case.'
UKIP earlier blasted a statement from Rotherham council leader Roger Stone as 'saying nothing'.
Councillor Stone said in a lengthy statement: 'This morning I received a report of the immediate investigation that was ordered early on Saturday by the Cabinet member for children’s services.
'Having now listened to the initial report, I am now able to set out the way forward.
'As we said on Saturday, membership of UKIP should not bar someone from fostering.

'The council places the highest priority on safeguarding children, and our overriding concern in all decisions about the children in our care is for their best interests.
'We have been able to establish the facts in this case as far as is possible over the weekend, and I can confirm that the children are safe and in very good care.
'However, this remains a very complex case involving legal advice relating to the decision in question, particular features of the children’s background and an external agency responsible for finding and providing the foster carers concerned.
'The chief executive has this morning invited the senior officials making the inquiries to meet with him and other council officers in Rotherham as soon as possible, so that this information can be rapidly reported to the Secretary of State.
'In order to help the investigation further, we will also make all the facts established so far available to the Secretary of State’s officials.
'The investigation will focus on the information, advice and evidence gathered before making this decision, the nature of the decision itself and how it was communicated.
'This is a sensitive child protection case. It involves both vulnerable children and the foster carers, so the information the council is able to release publicly is limited by law.
'At all stages, however, we will seek to be as open and transparent as possible as we co-operate with the Secretary of State.'
UKIP leader Nigel Farage said that 'without any shadow of a doubt' Rotherham’s head of children’s services Joyce Thacker should lose her job over the row and the children should be returned to the foster parents.
And he indicated that the party is considering legal action to get redress from the council.
Mr Farage told BBC2’s Politics Show: 'I want them to be pardoned, I want the children to be returned to them and, yes, heads should roll.

'Without any shadow of a doubt, (Ms Thacker) should go.'
Commenting on the investigation, Mr Farage added: 'These people are now left in limbo, the children are uprooted once again and heads clearly aren’t going to roll.
'I am concerned that the inquiry is just a means to kicking the can down the road.
'If we are not going to get redress from Rotherham Council, we will have to consider other means. We are going to have to look at the legal route.'
Mr Fabricant's analysis suggests that up to 15 per cent of Conservative voters currently say they may vote for UKIP.
There is particular concern about how well the party will fare in European elections – traditionally its strongest forum – in 2014.
The Tory vice chairman, a former Government whip, told the Daily Mail: 'Discussing matters with different political parties is nothing new.
'After all, the Conservatives entered into a coalition with the Liberal Democrats. By entering into a pact with UKIP by offering an in-out EU referendum, we would not only please many possible Conservative voters and pre-empt any Labour initiative in that direction, we would prevent the crucial seepage of Conservative votes to UKIP in key marginal seats.'

If Mr Farage brokered a deal, Mr Cameron should offer him a job in Government because he was such a good communicator, said Mr Fabricant. He warned that the alternative to a pact 'which both David Cameron and UKIP will have to consider, might mean a more pro-European Union Labour Government'.
At the 2010 General Election, UKIP won 3.1 per cent of the popular vote, but cost the Tories dozens of marginal seats.
Mr Cameron is under pressure to take a more Eurosceptic stance, with growing numbers of Tory MPs demanding a straightforward referendum on whether Britain should remain a member of the EU.
The PM has said he will only hold a vote on rubber-stamping a new relationship with Brussels, but does not want to leave altogether - a position backed by Boris Johnson yesterday.
Mr Johnson dismissed calls for a referendum on Britain’s membership of the EU.
He said: 'Suppose Britain voted tomorrow to come out, what would happen in real terms? We’d still have huge numbers of staff trying to monitor what was going on in the community, only we wouldn’t be able to sit in the Council of Ministers – we wouldn’t have any vote at all.
'I don’t think that’s a prospect that’s likely to appeal. With great respect to the in-outers, I don’t think it does boil down to such a simple question,’ the London mayor told BBC Radio 5Live.
Instead, he called for a repatriation of powers from Brussels: ‘What you could do is think of a new arrangement, areas of the treaty we didn’t want to participate in any more.’
Foreign Secretary William Hague suggested the Government would indeed offer a referendum on UK membership of the EU – after a renegotiation of the relationship and once the eurozone crisis was over.
Tony Blair will warn this week that Britain's prosperity relies on the country remaining committed to a strong EU.

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UKIP leader's fury after member is banned by Barnardo's from caring for children

UKIP leader's fury after member is banned by Barnardo's from caring for children | Race & Crime UK | Scoop.it
Nigel Farage condemned 'another appalling case of discrimination' after a former district nurse said she had been prevented from volunteering as a mentor by the leading children's charity.

 

A row over two UKIP members having their foster children removed took a new twist last night when another woman claimed she had been barred from looking after children because she was a party candidate.
Nigel Farage, UKIP leader, condemned ‘another appalling case of discrimination’ after former district nurse Anne Murgatroyd said she had been prevented from volunteering as a mentor for young adults by leading children’s charity Barnardo’s.
Ms Murgatroyd, a mother of three, claims she told the charity of her political affiliation and was told it would ‘not be appropriate’ for her to perform the role, which involves supporting children coming out of the care system, because UKIP ‘opposes multi-culturalism’.
The charity said there were other reasons for Ms Murgatroyd’s rejection but refused to disclose further details.
The claim came as two investigations were launched into a council’s ‘indefensible’ decision to remove three vulnerable children from their foster parents because of their support for UKIP.
Social workers at Rotherham Borough Council claimed the married couple’s affiliation with UKIP meant they supported ‘racist’ policies which made them unsuitable carers for the non-British children and there were concerns for their ‘cultural and ethical needs’.
But amid widespread condemnation of their actions yesterday, the Labour-run council began an internal review, and Education Secretary Michael Gove announced his own investigation.
Last night, Mr Farage said he had ‘no reason’ to doubt Ms Murgatroyd’s story.

He said: ‘I met this lady at our party conference. We knew about this story at the time but she chose not to publicise it. She has now decided to make it known, really in support of the couple in Rotherham. Because of all that, I believe her story is genuine.’
Separately, UKIP officials said Ms Murgatroyd informed them of her problems with Barnardo’s several months ago.
The latest claim emerged in a series of posts Ms Murgatroyd, who stood as a UKIP candidate for Leeds City Council in May’s elections, made on Twitter.

She wrote: ‘Barnardo’s would not allow me to be a volunteer befriender of young people leaving care when I told them I was standing for UKIP . . . Barnardo’s rationale for this was that “UKIP opposes multi-culturalism”.’
Responding to a Mail on Sunday reporter, she wrote: ‘I’d almost gone through their process and been accepted when I told them I’d be standing for UKIP in locals . . . They checked with managers, discussed it, couldn’t accept me due to issue of multi-culturalism.
‘Their rationale was that because UKIP opposes multi-culturalism it would not be appropriate for me to mentor young people coming out of the care system. My argument was that, yes, I do oppose forced marriage and female genital mutilation and family killings but that does not make me unsuitable to befriend young people.’

Barnardo’s denied ‘blanket banning’ any applicant. It said: ‘The needs of the child must be paramount when making any decision about matching them with carers and the most important thing is to provide a loving and supportive environment.
People from all backgrounds work and volunteer for Barnardo’s but there are many factors to take into consideration when assessing suitability to work with children or young people. Cultural context is relevant, but so are family background, health, and any previous experience.’
The foster couple in Rotherham at the centre of a separate storm claimed Howard Woolfenden, the council’s former director of safeguarding children and families, had taken the decision to separate them from the children in their care without prior discussion.
They also denied claims their membership of UKIP affected their treatment of the children.
The wife said: ‘We were actively encouraging these children to speak their own language and to teach us their language. We enjoyed singing one of their folk songs in their native language.
‘These children have now been placed with families who are also white British. How are these people going to meet the cultural needs of these children?’
The Equality and Human Rights Commission said the decision may have breached the parents’ right to freedom of political opinion.
Mr Woolfenden was not available for comment.
In a statement, Rotherham council announced an immediate investigation and said: ‘Membership of a political party should not stop someone fostering children.’
Labour leader Ed Miliband called for an urgent probe.

 

Response: The charity said there were other reasons for Ms Murgatroyd's rejection but refused to disclose further details

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Freedom And Reality - Merchandise Store

Freedom And Reality -  Merchandise Store | Race & Crime UK | Scoop.it

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They called us 'Mum and Dad' and wanted to stay with us 'forever'

They called us 'Mum and Dad' and wanted to stay with us 'forever' | Race & Crime UK | Scoop.it
The parents at the centre of the Ukip fostering row have urged council leaders to consider their positions after they failed to apologise for removing three children from their care.

 

The couple said they felt "slandered and besmirched" after social workers took the ethnic minority children away because they were members of the UK Independence Party.
The husband said: "They should be considering their positions. These are people on incredible salaries who are paid to make responsible decisions but they can't do it.
"It's completely baffling that they just can't put their hands up. They say this is a complex case but we don't agree. It's very simple."
Michael Gove, the Education Secretary, condemned the council's decision as "indefensible" over the weekend after The Daily Telegraph revealed that the children had been taken away.
The Department for Education has mounted its own investigation and officials have demanded answers to a series of questions about the case.

Rotherham metropolitan borough council yesterday failed to apologise to the couple and refused to release the findings of an internal report into the case.
As the row threatens to dominate this week's local election Nigel Farage, the leader of Ukip, said that Joyce Thacker, Rotherham's head of children's services, should lose her job.
Mrs Thacker, who is paid more than £130,000 a year, this weekend defended the decision to remove the children from the foster parents last week because of their "cultural and ethnic needs".
Mr Farage told BBC2's Politics Show: "I want them to be pardoned, I want the children to be returned to them and, yes, heads should roll."
The couple, who are in their fifties and have been described as "exemplary" foster parents, yesterday questioned the council's claim that the children's removal was in their best interests.
The wife said: "How can it be in their best interests to remove them at a moments notice without giving them the time to meet and get to know their new foster parents?
"The council in Rotherham is from the dark ages. It's inconsistent with how the country feels and how this country is run."
She said that one of the girls they were looking after had started calling them "Mum and Dad" and said she wanted to stay with them "forever".
"She bumped into our grandson on the streets and said she missed him and missed us," she said.
"If the social workers or the guardians of this particular girl were to ask her if she wanted to come back we would welcome her with open arms. They had some really happy times here."
The couple were given just 20 minutes notice before the children were taken away from them.
"I was so distressed," she said. "We had to keep it together for the kids but inside we were so angry and upset. I had to go into the kitchen and take a deep breath.
Roger Stone, the council's Labour leader, said: "As we said on Saturday, membership of Ukip should not bar someone from fostering.
"We have been able to establish the facts in this case as far as is possible over the weekend, and I can confirm that the children are safe and in very good care.
"However, this remains a very complex case involving legal advice relating to the decision in question, particular features of the children's background and an external agency responsible for finding and providing the foster carers concerned."
He added: "This is a sensitive child protection case. It involves both vulnerable children and the foster carers, so the information the council is able to release publicly is limited by law.
"At all stages, however, we will seek to be as open and transparent as possible as we co-operate with the Secretary of State."

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WARNING: Rotherham's Labour council is actively harmful to children !

WARNING: Rotherham's Labour council is actively harmful to children ! | Race & Crime UK | Scoop.it
AN under fire Yorkshire council has sparked outrage by removing three children from the care of foster parents because they are members of the Ukip political party.

 

Rotherham Metropolitan Borough Council removed the children because the couple’s political affiliation was seen as being at odds with the youngsters’ European backgrounds.

By the council’s own admission the youngsters were happy and there was no question mark over the foster parents’ provision of care.

Tonight, council leader Roger Stone announced the Labour-run authority would investigate what had happened after mounting condemnation from political leaders including Education Secretary Michael Gove and Labour leader Ed Miliband.

Mr Stone said: “We are going to investigate to make sure everything has been done professionally.

“If the professionals give advice, we take it.

“We are going to investigate - we always would if somebody complains.

“We are looking to make sure all the correct procedures were carried out before the decision was made.

“There is no policy, as has been implied, that if you are a British National Party member you can’t foster children.”

Mr Gove said social workers had made “the wrong decision in the wrong way for the wrong reasons” and that he would be personally investigating and exploring steps to “deal with” the situation.

The politician, who heads the Government department responsible for children’s services and who was himself adopted as a child, accused Rotherham of sending out a “dreadful signal”.

He said: “Rotherham council have made the wrong decision in the wrong way for the wrong reasons.

“Rotherham’s reasons for denying this family the chance to foster are indefensible.

“The ideology behind their decision is actively harmful to children. We should not allow considerations of ethnic or cultural background to prevent children being placed with loving and stable families.

“We need more parents to foster, and many more to adopt.

“Any council which decides that supporting a mainstream UK political party disbars an individual from looking after children in care is sending a dreadful signal that will only decrease the number of loving homes available to children in need.

“I will be investigating just how this decision came to be made and what steps we need to take to deal with this situation.”

The children, a baby girl, a boy and an older girl, were removed by social workers after the council reportedly received an anonymous tip-off about the foster parents’ membership of the right-wing party which wants withdrawal from the European Union and immigration curbs.

Social workers said they were concerned about the children’s “cultural and ethnic needs”.

The South Yorkshire couple claimed a social worker told them Ukip was “racist”.

Mr Miliband said: “Being a member of Ukip should not be a bar to adopting or fostering children.

“We need an urgent investigation by Rotherham Council into the circumstances of this case.

“I don’t know all the facts of this case but I am clear, what matters is children in Rotherham and elsewhere, and being a member of a political party like Ukip should not be a bar to fostering children.

“We need to find out the facts and the council urgently needs to get to the bottom of exactly what happened.

“The couple concerned are making extremely serious claims, very disturbing claims.

“Right-thinking people across the country will think there are thousands of children who need to be looked after, who need fostering, we shouldn’t have the situation where membership of a party like Ukip excludes you from doing that.

“We need loving homes for children across the country.

“That can come in different forms, it’s not about what political party you are a member of.”

Ukip leader Nigel Farage called for resignations over what he said was an “appalling” decision.

Accusing the council of bigotry, he said he felt: “Very upset and very angry, particularly for the couple involved, who have been fostering for many years and are very decent people, and the awful shock to them of having these children removed, not to mention the upset to the children themselves.

“Politically, I’m afraid not surprised at all.

“This is typical of the kind of bigotry we get from the Labour Party and from Labour controlled councils.

“It was the Labour government that opened the doors to uncontrolled mass immigration into this country on a scale that we have never seen in the history of the island.

“And then anybody who tries to discuss or debate the issue is written off as being racist.”

Joyce Thacker, the council’s strategic director of children and young people’s services, said the decision to remove the children was taken after consultation with lawyers.

Asked what the specific problem was with the couple being Ukip members, Mrs Thacker told BBC Breakfast: “We have to think about the clear statements on ending multi-culturalism for example.

“These children are from EU migrant backgrounds and Ukip has very clear statements on ending multiculturalism, not having that going forward, and I have to think about how sensitive I am being to those children.”

She added that there was no issue about the quality of care the couple provided and said she would co-operate with any investigation.

The children, who stayed with the couple for eight weeks, were encouraged to speak their language which their foster parents were trying to learn, the foster mother said.

She denied that there had been any discussion between the family and Rotherham Council before the children were removed.

The woman said the council feared the couple could not meet the children’s cultural needs in the long term - a claim the family denied.

The woman added: “We were actively encouraging these children to speak their own language and to teach us their language.

“We enjoyed singing one of their folk songs in their native language, and having been told of the religious denomination of these children we took steps to ensure that a school of their denomination was found.”

The foster mother claimed the children have been placed with families who are also white British, and she questioned how the council thought these couples could fulfil the children’s cultural needs.

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Gates of Vienna: “This Project is Fundamentally Anti-Democratic”

Gates of Vienna: “This Project is Fundamentally Anti-Democratic” | Race & Crime UK | Scoop.it

The video below was recorded today at the European Parliament in Brussels by Henrik Ræder Clausen. It features the “King of Euro-Skepticism”, MEP Nigel Farage, the leader of the UK Independence Party (UKIP) and the co-president of the “Europe of Freedom and Democracy” (EFD) Group in the EP.

 

The occasion was the presentation of the book Europa Wankelt: De ontvoering van Europa door de EU (Europe Falters: The Abduction of Europe by the EU) by Wim van Rooy, Remi Hauman and Sam van Rooy.

 

Henrik includes this introduction to the video:

While English MEP Nigel Farage presents the new Dutch book Europa Wankelt (“Europe Falters”), he also outlines his vision of a post-EU Europe. He envisions a new Europe consisting of free nations, run with the consent of the people rather than directives from faceless and unelected bureaucrats. A Europe with liberty and genuine democracy, an economy freed from the shackles of the euro, ruled with legitimacy and wide public consent.

 

First, however, the illegitimate and dysfunctional power structures have to go. The Netherlands rejected the European Constitution, which was forced upon them without consent anyway. This Dutch book, with essays from a variety of great thinkers from many European countries, should be a major contribution to take Europe back from her abductors, the European Union.

 

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http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.fr/2012/05/this-project-is-fundamentally-anti.html

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