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Gordon Macintyre-Kemp: A deficit in thinking from the mainstream media

Gordon Macintyre-Kemp: A deficit in thinking from the mainstream media | scottish referendum | Scoop.it

THE mainstream press are falling over themselves to point out the size of the financial deficit that Scotland has as part of the United Kingdom. From this, unionists conclude that Scotland cannot afford to be an independent nation and that it shows how much we need the UK to subsidise us. Putting aside that remarkable lack of respect and ambition for Scotland there is, however, a question the press are not asking.


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Peter A Bell's curator insight, August 27, 6:18 AM

"The simple fact is GERS figures tell us nothing about how Scotland would have fared as an independent country..."

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Labour MP describes SNP surge as 'like a tsunami'

Labour MP describes SNP surge as 'like a tsunami' | scottish referendum | Scoop.it
THE scale of Labour's foreboding north of the Border has been laid bare on the eve of the first televised Scottish leaders' debate with one ex-MP and candidate admitting the SNP surge is "like a tsunami" even the world's best swimmer could not hope to survive.

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Labour too weak to handle SNP alliance say Tories

Labour too weak to handle SNP alliance say Tories | scottish referendum | Scoop.it
NICOLA Sturgeon would be the dominant player in any post-election alliance between Labour and the SNP, the Conservatives claimed last night.

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Peter A Bell's curator insight, April 6, 2015 10:30 AM

Perhaps Osborne might explain exactly what he finds "deeply disturbing" about democratically elected MPs participating in government.

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A Fate Worse than Debt

A Fate Worse than Debt | scottish referendum | Scoop.it
The most useful power the Smith Commission could grant the Scottish Government is the ability to get itself as deeply into debt as possible.

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When Scots say they want more powers for the Scottish Parliament, they are expressing a desire for their country to follow a fundamentally different path to UK austerity. It is not enough to redistribute the pain, to be allowed to choose between spending cuts and tax rises. If the Smith Commission is to save the Union, only the devolution of full borrowing powers will do.

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An acceptable answer

An acceptable answer | scottish referendum | Scoop.it

Earlier today we published an email from Daily Record editor Murray Foote about “The Vow”. In it he referred to an editorial published in the paper on 8 September, attacking the “confused and shambolic” position of the three Unionist parties on further devolution to Scotland in the event of a No vote.


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Hear no Devo..See no Devo..Speak no Devo

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Jim Murphy is Scottish Labour's only hope - Spectator Blogs

Jim Murphy is Scottish Labour's only hope - Spectator Blogs | scottish referendum | Scoop.it
At the risk of intruding into someone else's calamity, if you can't enjoy this what can you enjoy? By this I mean, of course, Scottish Labour's meltdown. (Suggestions the party…

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Peter A Bell's curator insight, October 30, 2014 9:53 AM

I was wondering if Alex Massie was genuinely so appallingly shallow as to suppose that Jim Murphy might be the saviour of British Labour in Scotland. Then I got to the update at the end of the article where Massie makes a direct comparison between Alex Salmond's situation when he was both MP and party leader and the putative situation that Jim Murphy MP would be in were he to become leader of the entirely mythical "Scottish Labour Party". At this point I realised that I had gravely underestimated Mr Massie's shallowness.


Clearly, Alex Massie totally fails to understand that "Scottish" Labour's problem is not, as he seems to suppose, finding somebody with a sufficiently mindless hatred of the SNP. Their problem is the tensions arising from the fact that they are trying to pretend to the people of Scotland that they are a genuine Scottish party while their bosses in London insist that they are no more than an offshoot of British Labour.


Few people represent this London dominance of "Scottish" Labour more than the odious Jim Murphy MP. Appointing him as leader would almost certainly add to "Scottish" Labour's problems. There is not the vaguest possibility that it would resolve them.


Salmond did not have the problem of theses tensions. There was never any doubt in anybody's mind (with the possible exception of Mr Massie) that the SNP was an entirely Scottish political party even if it's leader was at Westminster.


Salmond also had a very capable deputy at Holyrood. Murphy's deputy would be Anas Sarwar. Another MP almost as widely despised in Scotland as Murphy. And even if Sarwar was persuaded (read "bribed") to quit as deputy to make way for an MSP, this would still be seen as a stitch-up.


Massie is just about as wrong as he can be. Murphy is not a plausible candidate for the leadership of "Scottish" Labour. What "Scottish" Labour needs is somebody who can remove those quotes from "Scottish".


The rest of us should be asking ourselves why it appears to suit the British media - which, we must remember, is the voice of the British establishment - that Jim Murphy should be anointed as Lamont's replacement. We hardly need to ask ourselves whether the interests of the British establishment are likely to be compatible with those of the people of Scotland.

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MPs told: Smith commission won't produce sustainable devo plan

MPs told: Smith commission won't produce sustainable devo plan | scottish referendum | Scoop.it
The commission tasked with brokering a quick deal on Scottish devolution could face calls for a suspension to head off

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Cameron has failed in duty on debate say SNP

Cameron has failed in duty on debate say SNP | scottish referendum | Scoop.it
DAVID Cameron has been accused by the SNP of a "total dereliction of duty" for not leading today's set-piece six-hour Commons debate on devolution following the Scottish independence referendum.

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Peter A Bell's curator insight, October 15, 2014 11:32 AM

One of the things that was predicted to occur in the event of a No vote in the referendum was that British nationalists would represent it as a fulsome and unequivocal endorsement of the union. And so it has turned out. The 45% who unequivocally voted for independence are, as also predicted, being totally ignored. Only those who voted for something completely undefined count for anything in the calculations of British establishment.


It is the British state defined. Vote positively for something, and your voice doesn't count. Only if you vote to let British politicians decide what you have voted for is your vote respected.


This is not democracy. This is a mockery of democracy.


This is demockracy!

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These Pictures Show Scottish Independence Supporters Aren't Going Anywhere

These Pictures Show Scottish Independence Supporters Aren't Going Anywhere | scottish referendum | Scoop.it
Thousands of people flocked to the centre of Glasgow for a rally in support of Scottish independence on Sunday.

The Hope Over Fear event, organised by the socialist campaign for an independent Scotland, attracted supporters of all ages from across the city and beyond.

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Scotland being part of the UK will be as short-lived as the rainbow's lovely form, evanishing amid the storm to come.

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An individual truth about Scotland’s fracking nightmare – Scottish Statesman – Scottish News, Opinion & Comment

An individual truth about Scotland’s fracking nightmare – Scottish Statesman – Scottish News, Opinion & Comment | scottish referendum | Scoop.it
I have been very busy following the referendum debate in depth for the past many months reading vast amounts of articles and news, posting comments and generally trying to engage other people, especially the undecided, in genuine conversation about Independence.

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more of the same #Westminster #fracking #45

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As things stand

A couple of weeks on and the history of the Scottish independence referendum is being rewritten just as fast as that pesky oil that was running out turned into a bonanza lasting for the next century. The sweeping generalisations of the victors abound, especially in the media that backed them to the hilt throughout the long campaign. It’s a pity they didn’t stop to think in advance. Maybe they would have seen the writing on the wall.

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We told you so #2

We told you so #2 | scottish referendum | Scoop.it
Even we're surprised how fast these are coming true. Stay tuned for more. They're on the way. (Here are some of the times we told you so.) Nick Clegg Signs Another Pledge Diluting the poisoned chal...

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No surprises here!!!!!!

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Nick Robinson's blackout - YouTube

A mindboggling lie from the BBC's Nick Robinson. Alex Salmond gave a detailed answer several minutes long BEFORE making his complaint about the story. The an...

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Betrayal of the BBC as corrupt as its Westminster government it serves. Be gone with the lot of ye! 

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Peter A Bell's curator insight, September 11, 2014 4:20 PM

Nick Robinson is a bare-faced liar. Salmond answered his questions at considerable length and even repeated his answers when Robinson started whining and heckling. The video evidence proving that Robinson is a liar can be seen here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHmLb-RIbrM.

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The disunited Kingdom and the confusion in Britain’s political elites

The disunited Kingdom and the confusion in Britain’s political elites | scottish referendum | Scoop.it
The Scots indyref was a watershed moment. But the debate hasn't gone away and large parts of pro-union opinion seem more angry and in dismay than they did last year. This points to future problems for the continuation of the UK.

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 Westminster politics have declared independence from the rest of the UK, and with this Scotland has become de jure self-governing and autonomous.

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Scottish Secretary Alistair Carmichael: 'I know who leaked Nicola Sturgeon memo'

Scottish Secretary Alistair Carmichael: 'I know who leaked Nicola Sturgeon memo' | scottish referendum | Scoop.it
A SCOTLAND Office civil servant was behind the leaked memo that claimed Nicola Sturgeon wants David Cameron to remain as Prime Minister.

Scottish Secretary Alistair Carmichael has fingered an official in his own department for writing the note.

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The newspapers are preparing for a coup - and Labour is doing nothing to stop them

The newspapers are preparing for a coup - and Labour is doing nothing to stop them | scottish referendum | Scoop.it

Britain's constitution is being re-written in Daily Mail and Telegraph headlines to keep Labour out - and Jim Murphy is helping them.


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Banffshire & Buchan Coast SNP: Labour abandoned the social justice agenda in Scotland. That will be the daily business of the SNP.

Banffshire & Buchan Coast SNP: Labour abandoned the social justice agenda in Scotland. That will be the daily business of the SNP. | scottish referendum | Scoop.it
These are good days in which to become First Minister and leader of the SNP.

When Alex Salmond became leader in 1990, the SNP had just four MPs at Westminster. There was no Scottish Parliament, or even the prospect of one, and Scotland was governed by Tory Secretary of State Malcolm Rifkind.

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What Next?

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Six weeks later, and time to take some perspective. There are many positives to take from the campaign. The age demographics (with a majority of under 65’s voting Yes) and the Yes votes in West Central Scotland and Dundee mean that the idea of Independence is now ‘normalised’ across large parts of the population. In many parts of the country and social circles Independence is now the normal view. Self-determination is no longer looked upon as a fringe minority opinion. The significance of this for future should not be underestimated.

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Is schadenfreude fatal?

Less than two months since Scotland voted No, and it’s become clear that the big loser from the independence referendum isn’t the SNP or the other pro-independence parties, it’s Labour. Is schadenfreude fatal? I may have given up ciggies just to die from an overdose of smugness, gloating, and an overwhelming urge to yell out: “Ha ha! Fuckin’ TELT yese!”

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Go hang yourself in shame. Read it and weep.

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The shattering of The Vow

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We didn’t notice this piece in Scotland on Sunday three weekends ago, because we were on holiday and, well, it was in Scotland on Sunday. But it seems odd that nobody (including SoS) has picked up on its ramifications at the time or since, because if it’s true then it would officially and conclusively mark the complete abandonment of the “vow” all three Westminster party leaders made to Scottish voters prior to the referendum, just 10 days after Scots voted to believe that vow.


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Be sure the truth will find you out

Be sure the truth will find you out | scottish referendum | Scoop.it
This morning’s Daily Record has a rather panicky-sounding editorial complaining that Yes supporters, from the First Minister down, are refusing to “move on” from the referendum result and are complaining about “betrayal”, especially in the light of yesterday’s joke of a Commons debate. The Record calls for unity and also talks, hilariously, of the “settled will of the Scottish people”.

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SNP surge brings gloom for Labour

Another week and there is more worrying news for Scottish Labour.

SNP figures show that a significant proportion of the colossal number of new members they have signed up since the referendum come from traditional Labour heartlands.

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Peter A Bell's curator insight, October 13, 2014 9:41 AM

Surely the most striking thing about British Labour in Scotland is the fact that they appear to be totally oblivious to their situation. They seem to lack any awareness of the profound changes that have been wrought in Scottish politics by the referendum campaign.


We saw this same blinkered denial following the 2007 Holyrood election. And the second most notable thing about the 2011 election was British Labour's abject failure to learn any lessons from the SNP's historic win at their expense.


The referendum, and its aftermath, represent the third warning for British Labour in Scotland. But, rather than taking heed of that warning, they choose instead to regard the outcome as a triumph.


In the early hours of Friday 19 September, as it became clear that the forces of fear were to enjoy an inglorious victory over the forces of hope, I was talking to a grinning, gloating representative of British Labour in Scotland. I remarked to them that their delight was likely to be, to paraphrase Burns, as short-lived as the rainbow's lovely form, evanishing amid the storm to come.


I pointed out that they had treated the referendum as a party political battle with the SNP. By their actions, not least in forming an alliance with the Tories, they had won that contest, but it had cost them the country.


I doubt very much if my words had any lasting impact. British Labour in Scotland continues to equate its interests with the interests of Scotland despite the enormous gulf that has opened up between party and people. They continue to behave as if political power in Scotland is their entitlement. They genuinely seem to believe that nearly a decade of profound upheaval in Scotland's political environment is no more than a blip.


They seem to think they are not affected by this upheaval. That it requires no response from them. That they need not change to accommodate the new political realities. That they need only wait and the voters will eventually come to their senses and everything will get back to the way it was before.


Some will regard this as an exaggeration, or even a total misreading of the situation. They will insist that there are people within British Labour in Scotland who are fully aware of the problems the party faces. They will point to various instances of British Labour politicians in Scotland talking about the need for change. My response would be to challenge them to point to something more substantive than talk about the need for change.


If there was genuine awareness within its upper echelons of the extent to which British Labour in Scotland has gone astray then we would be seeing, not just ordinary members burning their membership cards, but high level defections to the SNP. That this is not happening is a measure of just how detached from reality British Labour politicians are.

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Lamont attacks Salmond over Abellio rail contract

Lamont attacks Salmond over Abellio rail contract | scottish referendum | Scoop.it
ALEX Salmond has been accused of using his final days in power to sell out Scotland, after Dutch rail operator Abellio was awarded the contract to run ScotRail services from April 2015.

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Peter A Bell's curator insight, October 10, 2014 3:09 AM

The pertinent question here is, what would British labour in Scotland have done differently? And the answer is, absolutely nothing. The Scottish Government is constrained by tendering rules laid down by the UK government and was obliged to award the rail franchise to the best bidder. No other government could have done anything else.


In fact, the Scottish Government has done rather well to secure the deal that it has. The living wage; no compulsory redundancies and improvements to rolling stock are all worthwhile gains that will benefit workers and travellers alike.


What we are seeing here is, not the government being held to account by a "loyal opposition" looking after the interests of Scotland's people, but the petty and pointless sniping of a political clique entirely focused on its own interests.


One of the predictions made prior to the referendum was that, in the event of a No vote, the British establishment would seek to undermine the Scottish Parliament in various ways. It was further forecast that the British parties at Holyrood would play an active role in the effort to bring Scotland's democratic institutions into disrepute. We might claim Johann Lamont's contemptible conduct as evidence of this anti-parliamentarian campaign, but for the fact that it is indistinguishable from the small-minded, partisan ineptitude that has characterised the opposition in the Scottish Parliament since the SNP took power in 2007.

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David Cameron urges Scottish nationalists to accept referendum defeat - Telegraph

David Cameron urges Scottish nationalists to accept referendum defeat - Telegraph | scottish referendum | Scoop.it
The Prime Minister rebukes Nicola Sturgeon after she claimed it was a matter of "when, not if" Scotland becomes independent.

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Peter A Bell's curator insight, October 8, 2014 5:56 AM

Whether through a malicious purpose to deceive or mere stupidity David Cameron conflates two quite separate issues. Nobody is seriously contesting the referendum result. The Scottish Government certainly isn't disputing the outcome and neither is the SNP. It is characteristically dishonest of David Cameron to suggest that they are.


But, as was foretold by observers of the political scene in Scotland more aware of the realities than any London-based politician ever could be, Cameron attempts to equate the unionist victory in the referendum campaign as a defeat for the entire independence movement in Scotland. It is not. It never could be.


It will come as no surprise to most people in Scotland to find that British politicians are totally baffled by the concept of a political principle. Having observed the behaviour of the species over a number of years, we would expect the likes of Cameron to be bewildered by the idea of politicians adhering to fundamental principles rather than readily sacrificing them on the altar of political expediency.


The restoration of Scotland's rightful constitutional status is a matter of fundamental principle. It is not something that can be abandoned in the face of a setback such as a referendum defeat.


The other error that Cameron and his fellow British nationalists make is to suppose that the Scottish National Party and the independence movement are one and the same thing. This is partly due to plain ignorance and partly due to their folly in believing their own propaganda. In reality, the SNP is only one part of a much larger political movement which encompasses other political parties - such as the Scottish Greens and the Scottish Socialists - as well as numerous non-party political groups and countless individuals who are politically active to varying degrees.


Were Cameron and the rest of the Westminster elite even vaguely aware of the realities of Scotland's politics they would realise that Nicola Sturgeon can no more deny the demand for another referendum than she can suspend the campaign for independence.


Cameron and his ilk are confused and uncomprehending because they are being confronted by true democratic power. They are accustomed to a form of politics that operates entirely within the context of a rigidly controlled party political system whose sole purpose is the preservation of the existing structures of power and privilege. They are used to popular participation in politics being no more than the occasional ineffectual scrawling of a cross on a ballot paper next to any of a number of options not one of which poses a meaningful threat to the ruling elites of the British state or the dominant economic imperative. They simply do not understand the kind of mass grass-roots activism that now characterises the independence movement in Scotland.


It is not Nicola Sturgeon who will decide that there is to be another referendum. Nor is it the SNP or even the Scottish Government. And it certainly isn't David Cameron. The people of Scotland will decide. The politicians will just do as they are told.

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Us, now, or never

Us, now, or never | scottish referendum | Scoop.it
We have fifteen hours. The next fifteen hours mark the only ones in the entire history of time in which the fate of Scotland has rested democratically in the hands of its people. In 1707 the countr...

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