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Exclusive: ‘Scottish EU Membership Straightforward and in Denmark’s Interest’ | National Collective

Exclusive: ‘Scottish EU Membership Straightforward and in Denmark’s Interest’ | National Collective | SayYes2Scotland | Scoop.it

Exclusive: ‘Scottish EU Membership Straightforward and in Denmark’s Interest’

Posted by Michael Gray on July 10, 2013 in International · 0 Comments

An independent Scotland’s membership of the European Union would be straight-forward and in Denmark’s national interest, according to Danish academics and politicians. In a series of exclusive interviews with National Collective, members of the government, opposition and academics from the University of Copenhagen made it clear that Scotland would be welcome in international organisations. This follows supportive comments from the new Prime Minister of Iceland, who said Iceland would “welcome Scotland with a new thriving relationship” in the event of independence.

Growing interest in Scotland within the Nordic nations is a boost to the campaign for independence, which looks to Norway, Sweden, Denmark and Iceland as examples of successful independent countries.

Rasmus Helveg Petersen MP, the foreign affairs spokesperson for the Social Liberals – who are part of the Danish government – stated that in the event of independence

    Scottish membership of the EU would be a mere formality.”

Jakob Ellemann-Jensen MP, the Venstre Spokesperson on European Affairs and member of the Foreign Affairs Committee, said

    Should Scotland vote for independence it would only be natural for Denmark to acknowledge this independence and to welcome Scotland in both the EU in accordance with the Copenhagen Criteria and also in NATO.”

Venstre are Denmark’s largest parliamentary party.

A source within the Danish government – when questioned on Scottish independence – stated that “we are following this with great interest”, yet did not wish to be drawn on further statements at this time.

Professor Lars Bo Kaspersen, Head Political Science at the University of Copenhagen, said that

    Scottish EU membership would be in the Danish interest. I think it could be a fairly quick transition. I’m sure that the European Union in general would strongly support Scottish membership and the same goes for NATO. I can’t think of anyone who wouldn’t think it was a good idea.”

This view was backed up by Professor Mikel Rasmussen.

    Scottish legislation is suitable for membership equal to that of the United Kingdom. When it comes to NATO and the EU, if Scotland wants it, it would not be in anyone’s interest to not let them in. If Croatia can be part of the EU of course Scotland can be. I find questions over membership to be a non-issue.”

These views contrast sharply with the doom-laden pronouncements of Westminster politicians who claim that an independent Scotland would be isolated and frustrated by barriers to EU and NATO membership.

The Copenhagen Criteria set down the requirements for EU membership. Rasmus Petersen MP, when asked whether this process would be prolonged or clear for Scotland, replied

    It would be very clear. In the case that Norway wanted to become a member of the EU, for instance, it could happen overnight.”

When asked whether Scotland could become a member “overnight” Petersen stated

    If Scotland wants it, yes. It would be a mere formality.”

There was also great interest in Denmark in developing closer cooperation with Scotland within the Nordic Council and the Arctic region. Søren Espersen, the deputy leader of the DPP, said that

    There’s lots of opportunities. We are so close to each other in so many ways. There will immediately be a close connection. I know that the Danish government will accept straight away that Scotland could be a member of the Nordic Council.”

The Arctic region is of growing significance to environmental policy makers. It was highlighted as a weak-point within the UK Strategic Defence Review.

The Scottish government are following Nordic development with great interest, as they consider how an independent Scotland’s can strengthen relationships with its neighbours. A number of projects – such as Nordic Horizons and Common Weal – also seek to translate the success of Nordic models to Scotland. They argue that Scotland can be a more prosperous and equal country, while providing a just contribution to global affairs.

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Michael Gray
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Yes Scotland says women and young shifting to independence | Herald Scotland

Yes Scotland says women and young shifting to independence | Herald Scotland | SayYes2Scotland | Scoop.it
In @TheHeraldPaper: 'Yes Scotland have identified a shift in favour of independence among women and young' http://t.co/8hHjk3e76b #indyref
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Scotland 2014 - Time for a Management Buy-Out?

Scotland 2014 - Time for a Management Buy-Out? | SayYes2Scotland | Scoop.it

A Management Buy-Out (MBO) occurs when the management of a business (often a division of a large corporation) sees the opportunity to run the business more profitably with localised decision making, buys the business from its corporate owners, and seeks to get better results and grow.


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Benefits could switch easily after Yes vote - Herald Scotland

Benefits could switch easily after Yes vote - Herald Scotland | SayYes2Scotland | Scoop.it
The Guardian Benefits could switch easily after Yes vote Herald Scotland In its first findings since its creation in January to look at a benefits system with "Scottish values", the Expert Working Group on Welfare will say Scotland is already home...
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Separation isn't on the ballot paper!

Separation isn't on the ballot paper! | SayYes2Scotland | Scoop.it

Separation isn’t on the ballot paper!
Gordon MacIntyre-Kemp | 06/06/2013 | 2 Comments
Wealth Distribution in the UK

Wealth Distribution in the UK

The United Kingdom we live within isn’t actually one single union, it started life as a union of the crowns in 1603, then a union of the parliaments and currency in 1707 and now it consists of many different types of unions.  Some of those work and some don’t, some work very much against the interests of Scotland, others work for one UK region or nation but act against the interests of all the others.

Unpicking these dysfunctional unions from those that do work isn’t actually very difficult.  It only requires a little common sense; when a system of management fails repeatedly and completely it needs to be redesigned, that is common sense.

The complicating factor is that special interests profit from the maintenance of the status quo:

    Westminster politicians with expense accounts and jobs that will be impacted if Scotland votes to re-shape the system (including Alistair Darling)
    Lords with lobbying contracts
    Business people who have done well and can’t see or don’t care that the system has held others back
    The establishment and those that profit from it including the media, often without understanding that the status quo isn’t actually in their long-term interests either

Those people want you to think it will be harder to change the system because they fear change itself, or because change might challenge their entitlements and privileges.

The Edinburgh Agreement handed the wording of the referendum question to the Scottish Parliament and most commentators expected a big fight over the wording, but were then surprised when the simple clear and easy to understand question with a YES or NO answer was selected.

“Do you think Scotland should be an independent country?”  

Why was there no big fight over the wording?  Because the question matters a lot less than what people think the word “independence” means.

Two Competing Definitions

The No campaign want to define independence as separation, isolation, the creation of border and barriers, old style negative nationalism, xenophobia, and economically risky.

The trouble is these definitions don’t relate in anyway to Scotland’s enlightened, inclusive and internationally focussed movement for political decision-making to be transferred to Scotland.  They do, however, seem to be almost text book definitions for Nigel Farage’s UKIP which is fast becoming an influential force in UK politics (despite losing their deposits in every seat in the last Scottish election).

In contrast, the Yes campaign and the Scottish Government proposition is one where we have the appropriate levels of interdependence and economic interconnectedness, with both the other home nations and with our EU neighbours and trading partners. Crucially we need a system where we have the ability to engage the rest of the world on our own terms, which will enhance trading and political relationships.

The slow death of political union

All the evidence points to the UK having become an unbalanced economy with wealth and power now centralised in London and the South East.  Mass economic migration accelerating rapidly over the last fifty years means that the population size of London and the South East sets the political agenda for the whole of the UK. Their economy has become so alien to Scotland’s that the economic and social policies they vote for are damaging not just to Scotland but also the other home nations and the English regions.

Westminster’s one size fits all policy platform isn’t working for Scotland. A win for home rule in the 1979 referendum (52% – 48%) which was never implemented, then the opening of the Scottish Parliament in 1999, followed by the Calman Commission and the recent Scotland Act devolving more powers (but not the ones we need) have all been milestones on the journey towards re-shaping the political and economic model of the UK. The Scottish Government is not suggesting changing the geographic union of Britain, nor are they changing the currency, monarch or social unions, nor the common market for goods, services, trade, capital and people. They are also not changing the defence union through maintaining NATO membership. The political union however – the status quo you get if we vote no; well thats history.

The status quo is already dead, there is a great deal of uncertainty with a NO vote, not least because we do not know what NO means but because the polls also predict a NO vote in the EU referendum. The votes of London and the South East will be enough to take Scotland out of the EU, despite the fact that Scotland is likely to vote to stay in.

Fool Me Twice

Vote NO and trust us to offer some form of enhanced devolution says the No Campaign. Meantime, a Westminster parliamentary committee report says a Devo-Max or a Federal solution can only happen after a UK wide referendum.  This would require London and the South East to vote in a way that is usually described as turkeys voting for Christmas (at least in terms of their short-term interests).  They don’t want enhanced competition across the UK and they won’t vote for it, even if it’s in the more medium-term interests of a stable and sustainable economic recovery across these islands. Lets also put aside the fact that the two further referendums that follow if we vote No mean there is far more constitutional uncertainty than with a Yes vote next September! Let us actually consider if more powers will actually ever be offered!  At a charity dinner last year Andrew Neil of the Politics Show said:
Andrew Neil warns Scots not to trust Westminster

Andrew Neil warns Scots not to trust Westminster

“Devolution, the Calman Commission, the Scotland Bill, the Edinburgh Agreement, all of this and more you have, is because Westminster parties are scared of the SNP.  If you vote NO you massively change the balance of power and they will not only give you nothing, but will probably take powers away from the Scottish Parliament”.

Honest words indeed from a committed unionist and leading expert on Westminster politics.  Consider this scenario: would a Tory/UKiP coalition after the 2015 UK General Election be likely to have extra powers for Scotland on its policy agenda when they may have not have one single representative here? Or when they have the larger constitutional issue of EU membership to tackle?

Nobody wants the status quo either!

The Scottish Social Attitudes Survey was devised on the premise that the SNP would never win a majority and so there would never be an independence referendum and so many of the questions are out of date, but the last one threw up a fascinating result.

When asked how Scotland should be governed:

    8% opted for a form of independence that included the word separate and not in EU
    16% opted for a form of independence that included the word separate
    50% opted for the devo max option
    11% for the status quo
    11% for dissolving the Scottish Parliament

A fair conclusion is that independence is more popular than the status quo and that maintaining the status quo (which is what a No vote does) is no more popular than the idiotic idea of scrapping the Scottish Parliament in the No camp!

When asked a slightly different question on who should make decisions on behalf of Scotland (not using the word separation) the same sample threw up very different results:

    Independence won with 35%
    Devo max 32%
    Status quo 24%
    Ending devolution (closing the Scottish Parliament) 6%

The NO campaign has been busy asking us not to vote for “separation” and making some plainly ridiculous claims as to how bad this separation would be. The problem with that tactic is that separation isn’t on the ballot paper – I don’t want separation.  Independence is on the paper and so is the status quo, but nobody wants the status quo, even the political parties campaigning for a No vote don’t want the status quo.

The winner will be the one that wins the Devo Max votes without losing the support of their core vote.  Devo Max has some horrendous flaws though, it is sometimes described as having all the benefits of independence except that we would leave Defence, Foreign policy and Welfare under Westminster’s control, but these arguably represent some of Westminster biggest failings. Independence allows us to share services with the rest of the UK whilst ensuring economic and social policy control in Scotland and the choices such as not to enter an illegal war in the Middle East or host nuclear weapons fifty miles from our largest city. It is independence that gives us the best of both worlds.

For example; the bedroom tax is being applied across the whole of the UK because house prices in London and the South East are artificially high. Rents have increased significantly and so therefore has Housing Benefit (200% since the slowdown began) so they say we can’t afford to pay the benefits to disabled Scots – except that housing benefit has only risen 14% in Scotland during the same period.

Foreign affairs and defence being left at Westminster would mean that our soldiers could still be required to fight in unwise and even illegal wars, and Scotland would still play host to nuclear weapons that cost Scotland £1.5bn a year just to maintain, money most Scots believe we could better spend elsewhere.

The Opportunity

Business for Scotland believes the Scottish Government offers a form of independence that maintains the unions that work in the best interests of all the home nations. These will include a currency union with a prudent financial stability pact, free trade, open borders, social, cultural and family unions, in the case of the examples such as British Lions and Ryder Cup Team, a sporting union. We get to agree with our friends and neighbours in the British Isles what unions should be maintained for mutual gain, but more importantly we get to bin the ones that harm Scotland so we can tailor our economic and social policy in the interests of a distinctive economic landscape, challenges and opportunities and very different values, ideals and outlooks within Scotland and on the world as a whole.

In the interconnected global economy we require an element of co-operation and interdependency, to trade and co-exist peacefully. That’s the way of the world nowadays. This mature level headed internationalist, rather than old style nationalist approach seems to have caught the No campaign off-guard.  They are arguing for the Scottish people to reject a form of independence that isn’t on offer. That is not real independence they cry, but it very much is. It just happens that the No campaign don’t doesn’t understand modern concepts of workable, mature and common sense Independence.

Once again, separation isn’t on the ballot paper.  Modern independence that gets rid of the failings of Westminster and adopts the elements of Devo Max that work whilst rejecting extreme versions of independence is on offer next September.

Before we vote there will be a clear roadmap to a better Scotland, one with all the powers we need to improve our economy whilst simultaneously meeting our nations social and welfare needs, sounds just like what the people of Scotland really want and will vote for once independence is fully defined.

Maybe the slogan of the Yes campaign should be “Independence in Europe and Independence in the UK”?
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Gordon MacIntyre-Kemp is the owner of the Social Media and Sales & Marketing consultancy Intelligise and founding member of Business for Scotland. With a degree in business and economics, Gordon has worked as an economic development planning professional, and in marketing roles specialising in pricing modelling and promotional evaluation for global companies (including P&G). Gordon benefits (not suffers) from dyslexia, and is a proponent of the emerging New Enlightenment School of economic thinking.

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Cuthbert submission to Jimmy Reid Foundation | Scottish National Party

Cuthbert submission to Jimmy Reid Foundation | Scottish National Party | SayYes2Scotland | Scoop.it

Commenting on Margaret Cuthbert's submission for the Jimmy Reid Foundation's Common Weal project, SNP MSP Linda Fabiani said:

 

"As this important paper highlights, people are faced with a choice of two futures - do they want Westminster to continue running our economy or do they want these powers in Scotland's hands?"


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Don't Know 1

We asked people who Don't Know how to vote next year to share our concerns in 5000 words. All this week we'll be publishing their entries.


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Don't Know 3

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I don’t know how to vote in 2014.

I can’t deny that there are certain aspects to an independent Scotland that I find unquestionably appealing. I think Scotland’s culture and creative scenes would no doubt benefit hugely, as can be evidenced by the sheer volume of vocal support from within these industries. Figures such as Alan Bissett, Alasdair Gray, Iain Banks and Mogwai’s Stuart Braithwaite have made no secret of their fierce support for a Yes vote in 2014. What’s more, independence would do away with the bruised, underdog mentality of some Scottish art and literature, enabling us to be proud of our heritage and achievements without constant recourse to perceived wrongs committed by Westminster or England.

 


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Peter A Bell's curator insight, June 4, 2013 11:23 AM

I really don't get this incessant whining about needing "more information". There is a veritable mountain of stuff out there. All of it easily accessible. And hundreds, if not thousands, of people prepared to help point genuine enquirers in the right direction.

What these people are really looking for is not "more information". They are looking for something that will make the decision easy. But the decision IS easy. Independence is RIGHT! Regardless of ANY other arguments, independence is the proper status of a nation. All the rest is mere circumlocution.

That should be good enough for anybody. But if any are still hesitating then they should stop looking for the magic incantation that will make a Yes vote the obvious and easy choice and start looking at all the reasons why a No vote would be the WRONG choice. Disastrously, catastrophically WRONG!

Do you want an end to devolution and the Scottish Parliament stripped of significant powers?

Do you want Scotland's budget slashed so as to force us into adopting the policies of the British austerity cult?

Do you want policies such as health service privatisation imposed on Scotland so as to remove an embarrassing contrast with what is happening in England?

Do you want to see Scotland's electoral system rigged so that the hegemony of the British parties at Holyrood can be restored and never again challenged?

Do you want Scotland to be branded as inferior to other nations, it's people marked as innately incapable and unworthy of the independence that everybody else takes for granted?

If you want all these things then your choice on September 18 is still easy. Just vote No and you'll get all of this and worse! But before you do, ask yourself one more question.

Even if you think one day you'll be able to forgive yourself, can you ever hope for forgiveness from your children and your children's children?

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Sign for Scotland: Who doesn't want independence

Sign for Scotland: Who doesn't want independence | SayYes2Scotland | Scoop.it

Who stands to gain and lose if Scotland becomes independent?  A ‘Yes’ vote will result in many changes over time, so let’s consider both sides, starting with the ‘winners’.


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Yes Vote in 2014 will put Scotland's Cuisine on the Map

Yes Vote in 2014 will put Scotland's Cuisine on the Map | SayYes2Scotland | Scoop.it
Former White House Chef, David Macfarlane says a Yes vote will help boost the brand of Scotland’s cuisine. Former White House chef David MacFarlane There is no doubt that the eyes of the world will be on Scotland in 2014.
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Ten things to tell your friends about an independent Scotland

Yes Scotland is a grassroots campaign. This video gives the arguments in favour of an independent Scotland for our supporters to share in their communities. ...

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New Westminster cuts highlights need for Yes vote | Scottish National Party

New Westminster cuts highlights need for Yes vote | Scottish National Party | SayYes2Scotland | Scoop.it

The SNP today focused on the latest round of Westminster cuts coming Scotland’s way – and highlighted the fact that only a Yes vote in September 2014 can save Scotland from years of Tory austerity we didn't vote for.


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Independence: McColl says ‘No’ vote bad for Scotland

Independence: McColl says ‘No’ vote bad for Scotland | SayYes2Scotland | Scoop.it

JIM McColl, one of the country’s leading business figures, has warned that a No vote in next year’s independence referendum would deal Scotland’s prospects a major blow, making it less likely that he and fellow entrepreneurs would want to locate north of the Border.


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Peter A Bell's curator insight, May 27, 2013 4:55 AM

About time somebody started looking at the implications of a No vote.


See also: What does no really mean?

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Independence offers greater financial security for senior citizens

Independence offers greater financial security for senior citizens | SayYes2Scotland | Scoop.it
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Pensions in an independent Scotland will be more affordablw.

 

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Barra Collins: A Union of convenience

Barra Collins: A Union of convenience | SayYes2Scotland | Scoop.it
The desire for independence is not rational, but driven by the emotions and – like love – cannot be explained, writes Barra Collins

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Scotland could ‘improve’ on Westminster tax system | Scottish National Party

Scotland could ‘improve’ on Westminster tax system | Scottish National Party | SayYes2Scotland | Scoop.it

A leading academic has said with independence, Scotland could improve on Westminster’s tax systems and would gain opportunities from higher spending.


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Gavin McCrone backs new North Sea oil fund, but warns of perils

Gavin McCrone backs new North Sea oil fund, but warns of perils | SayYes2Scotland | Scoop.it
Author of a famous civil service paper on North Sea oil and Scottish nationalism in 1974, McCrone stands by his analysis and says declining oil wealth can still be conserved

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YES to an Independent Scotland

YES to an Independent Scotland | SayYes2Scotland | Scoop.it

This page has been created to give supporters of an Independent Scotland access to the latest news and information on the campaign trail. Click 'Like' and join us on our journey to Liberate Scotland!


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Project: Wish Tree | National Collective

Project: Wish Tree | National Collective | SayYes2Scotland | Scoop.it

The first ever event after the launch of Yes Scotland last year was a campaign tent at the Meadows Festival in Edinburgh. This weekend we were back at the Meadows Festival handing out flyers and asking people to sign the Yes Declaration, and we decided to try something a little different. We asked people to write down what they wanted to see in an independent Scotland, and we tied these messages up to create a wish tree.


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Don't Know 2

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We asked people who Don’t Know how to vote next year to share our concerns in 5000 words. All this week we’ll be publishing their entries.

 


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Robert the Bruce letter found urging king to end Scots' persecution

Robert the Bruce letter found urging king to end Scots' persecution | SayYes2Scotland | Scoop.it
The letter to King Edward II, sent in 1310, shows Robert asserting his god given authority as king of Scots.

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Perspectives: 'How can we allow wealth inequality to continue?'

Perspectives: 'How can we allow wealth inequality to continue?' | SayYes2Scotland | Scoop.it

Yesterday we published a video from the Office for National Statistics showing, among other things, the unequal nature of wealth distribution under Westminster, with Scotland sitting at the bottom of the 'wealth distribution' league (while we sit near the top for wealth generation).


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Osborne 'bluffing' over yes currency

Osborne 'bluffing' over yes currency | SayYes2Scotland | Scoop.it
The chairman of the Scottish government's council of economic advisers accuses the chancellor of "bluffing" over independence currency options. (Scottish independence: Osborne 'bluffing' over currency, says adviser Beveridge: The chairman of the ...
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Labour stance on Trident replacement non-existent | Scottish National Party

Labour stance on Trident replacement non-existent | Scottish National Party | SayYes2Scotland | Scoop.it

The SNP has called on Labour to make clear once and for all its position on the future of Trident as they continue to bury their head in the sand.


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RIGZONE - Statoil Makes Oil Discovery near North Sea's Grane Field

RIGZONE - Statoil Makes Oil Discovery near North Sea's Grane Field | SayYes2Scotland | Scoop.it
RIGZONE News - leading source for the latest news and information for the oil and gas industry (Statoil Makes Oil Discovery near North Sea's Grane Field http://t.co/jbv7eSBdCL)...
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More good news from the North Sea.

 

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