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Referendum 2014
The Scottish independence referendum and the debate about Scotland's constitutional future
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The referendum is over but the energy persists

The referendum is over but the energy persists | Referendum 2014 | Scoop.it
Scottish News, News Scotland - Politics, Referendum, Economy, Culture and intelligent opinion | Newsnet Scotland, uniquely Scottish
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It is disappointing to find otherwise intelligent people persisting in the fantasy that meaningful progressive change can be effected within the context of a British state which has evolved largely to fulfil the purpose of resisting meaningful change of any kind.


People like Lesley Riddoch bear considerable responsibility for the Yes campaign's defeat in the referendum. A significant proportion of those voting No did so because they bought into the deluded notion that a No vote could yet have a positive outcome for Scotland. Many of them have already disabused themselves of this notion. When will Lesley Riddoch catch up?


Let us not be diverted from our course by those whose naive idealism renders them blind to realpolitik. Let us keep our focus on the prize of independence for our nation.

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Renata Hill's comment, September 22, 5:05 PM
I SO agree! The independence momentum must continue!
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BBC George Square reports challenged by images and eye witness accounts

BBC George Square reports challenged by images and eye witness accounts | Referendum 2014 | Scoop.it
BBC news reports of a violent disturbance that took place in Glasgow's George Square following the independence referendum have been challenged after images and eye-witness accounts appeared to back claims that the violence was perpetrated by pro-Union thugs.
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The Straw that broke democracy's back

The Straw that broke democracy's back | Referendum 2014 | Scoop.it

There are many things wrong with this piece by Jack Straw, but the title and related text are the most significant part, so I’ll only talk about that just now.

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Joyce McMillan: Is No vote fear over common sense?

Joyce McMillan: Is No vote fear over common sense? | Referendum 2014 | Scoop.it
CIVIL society should now look carefully at the victors’ hurried plans, writes Joyce McMillan
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EXPOSED!! SCOTTISH VOTE FOR iNDEPENDENCE RIGGING - Smoking Gun Evidence of Vote Being Rigged! - YouTube

Snap it, Tag it, Share it... https://www.leafit.biz/jmvd n Dundee, a strong YES area, the count was suspended twice due to fire alarms. The turnout in the st...
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I had discounted claims of vote-rigging until I saw this.

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A lie won't fly

Scots voted No, in the end, on a ‘vow’ of greater devolution. Every Scot I have spoken to understands that the promised transfer of power can only take place if the books are balanced and Scots no ...
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Eric Joyce misses the crucial point that has bedevilled the SNP's self-imposed convention of not voting on England-only legislation. So long as Scotland remains in the union and Westminster controls our budget there are many areas of superficially England-only legislation which can have profound implications for Scotland's finances.


There surely comes a point at which ever more desperately contrived constitutional tinkering with sole purpose of preserving the old order and the old ways regardless of the consequences for democracy becomes so complex and problematic that even people like Eric Joyce have to recognise that the union is broken beyond repair.

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The Scottish referendum: a passionate, raw, but oh-so-civilised struggle

The Scottish referendum: a passionate, raw, but oh-so-civilised struggle | Referendum 2014 | Scoop.it
Kevin McKenna: The conduct of those involved in the campaign was exemplary, characterised by dignity and respect
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Salmond: 'No' voters were 'tricked'

Scottish First Minister Alex Salmond has said "No" voters in last week's independence referendum were "tricked" by a late vow of more devolved powers.

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12,000 people join pro-independence parties since the referendum.

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Banffshire & Buchan Coast SNP: SNP Membership Surges 20% In Two Days To Over 30,000

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BBC broadcasts Brown speech as anger grows over broken devo pledge

BBC broadcasts Brown speech as anger grows over broken devo pledge | Referendum 2014 | Scoop.it
Mr Miliband appeared to backtrack on the pledge by announcing any new powers for Scotland would be defined only after a constitutional convention to be held in the autumn of 2015.
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Amanda Dunsmore's curator insight, September 20, 2:17 PM

For anyone who thinks ANY government is going to uphold it's promises, take note.

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Labour are Ruined in Scotland. The Political Left Must Move Quickly. - Political Deviants

Labour are Ruined in Scotland. The Political Left Must Move Quickly. - Political Deviants | Referendum 2014 | Scoop.it
A majority of Glasgow residents have voted for Independence, in the face of Labour and the establishment.
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Miliband: More Important Things Than Devo Max

Miliband: More Important Things Than Devo Max | Referendum 2014 | Scoop.it
The Labour leader says devolution is not the most important issue for most people - despite a warning from his predecessor.
Peter A Bell's insight:

As predicted, the British parties start to renege on their promises before the ink is even dry on the referendum result.

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We have witnessed a total breakdown in political legitimacy

We have witnessed a total breakdown in political legitimacy | Referendum 2014 | Scoop.it

Our current relief is the product of lowered expectations. Without the fortnight which preceded it, last night's Scottish independence referendum result would be seen for what it is: an appalling breakdown of political legitimacy.

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'We Couldn't Have Designed A Worse Fucking Campaign'

'We Couldn't Have Designed A Worse Fucking Campaign' | Referendum 2014 | Scoop.it
On Monday morning, I bumped into a senior member of the shadow cabinet, who was standing with a pair of aides to Ed Miliband at Euston station, all of them clutching trolley bags. "We're off to save the union," said the shadow minister, wit...
Peter A Bell's insight:

Only those looking at Scotland's referendum campaign through the distorting lens of the British media imagine that Gordon Brown was a significant player. So-called journalists regurgitate the overblown hagiographies supplied to them by Brown's media manipulators apparently totally convinced that they are providing some uniquely perspicacious insight into Scotland's politics. They are embarrassingly wrong. But evidently content to be so.

These are the same fools who hear Cameron say that the union has been saved "for a generation" and accept this as unchallengeable fact for no better reason that it has oozed from the lying mouth of a senior British politician. Just as it never occurred to these self-appointed expert commentators and analysts to question any of the propaganda pumped out by the British state in the course of the referendum campaign, so they don't think to challenge the received wisdom of their treasured highly-placed sources.

Unsurprisingly, those sources take advantage of the fawning deference afforded them by indolent hacks who will guzzle whatever titbits are offered to them and then spit these out onto the mainstream media untasted and undigested.

There is a reality to which these self-styled political correspondents remain blind due their insistence on looking to London to see what is happening in Scotland. That reality is that membership of pro-independence parties in Scotland has soared in the few days since the referendum. Far from disintegrating in the face of defeat, the Yes campaign continues to grow and develop. Demand for another referendum is growing apace and will soon become irresistible. And all of this is happening with London-based journalists even being aware of it.

It is not only British Labour that needs to learn lessons from Scotland's independence referendum campaign. The British media should also be taking a long hard look at itself. But we all know that isn't going to happen.

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David Cameron wants Scottish MPs barred from voting on finance questions as referendum changes Britain

David Cameron wants Scottish MPs barred from voting on finance questions as referendum changes Britain | Referendum 2014 | Scoop.it
In the wake of the independence referendum result, the Prime Minister signalled a general election battleground
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Ed Miliband says more powers for the Scottish Parliament "No ifs! No buts!". But all we are hearing from the British parties is an endless list of "ifs" and "buts".

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Thousands sign up to pro-independence parties after referendum

Thousands sign up to pro-independence parties after referendum | Referendum 2014 | Scoop.it
Almost 5,000 Scots joined the SNP and 1,200 signed up to the Scottish Greens.
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It's my birthday - is it too much to ask for a little peace to enjoy it?

The last pledge lasted about 20 minutes and half way through David Cameron's speech on the #indyref result. When he got to the part about it being time to answer the West Lothian question as well ...
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Issue of Independence to Return If Devolution Promises Ignored: Reports

Issue of Independence to Return If Devolution Promises Ignored: Reports | Referendum 2014 | Scoop.it
Alex Salmond, former Scottish prime minister who quit two days after the victory of the 'No' campaign, has stated that 'No' voters were 'tricked' by Westminster's assurances of more devolution, Sky News reported Sunday.
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Generation Yes say: we'll never forget this...we don't want to give up now

Generation Yes say: we'll never forget this...we don't want to give up now | Referendum 2014 | Scoop.it
The referendum may have ended with a No vote, but for the young activists of Generation Yes the fight for independence will go on.
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What we need now is Evolution, not Revolution

What we need now is Evolution, not Revolution | Referendum 2014 | Scoop.it
Scotland is now light years ahead of the rest of the UK in terms of understanding our identity and our democracy.
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Number 1 in a long series

Number 1 in a long series | Referendum 2014 | Scoop.it
Of posts subtitled "We told you so". Coming soon: Iraq War III, Tory victory in 2015, UK out of Europe in 2017. Hold tight.
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Predictions about how the British state would react to a No vote are being proved correct already.

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No arguments about this vote, but another referendum will be unavoidable

No arguments about this vote, but another referendum will be unavoidable | Referendum 2014 | Scoop.it
When the turn-out is huge and the margin is clear, there can be no arguments.There need be no argument now. Scotland has said No to independence.
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Scotland's Independence Campaign So Isn't Over.

Scotland's Independence Campaign So Isn't Over. | Referendum 2014 | Scoop.it
To hear the conventional wisdom here in Great Britain, you’d think that the campaign for Scottish independence had just suffered a complete and permanent defeat. You could’ve fooled me. There is plenty in the referendum result to give Scottish nationalists grounds for hope. And the unionists, plenty to worry about. We may look back [...]
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Moving Forward

e have to make sure we don’t lose touch with the broad and dynamic base we’ve all helped to build over the past months and years.
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