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The Scottish independence referendum and the debate about Scotland's constitutional future
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The Union as Seen from Afar

The United Kingdom has always held a special place in my heart because of the sheer richness and complexity of her cultural heritage.

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Scotland’s economic strengths

Scotland’s economic strengths | Referendum 2014 | Scoop.it

Some of Scotland's many economic strengths are listed below. And they tell us two important things. First, they confirm that we've got what it takes to prosper as an independent country. And, second, they raise the crucial question: given all this wealth, why aren't families across Scotland better off?

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Brown: independence is only way to secure publicly-funded rail service

Brown: independence is only way to secure publicly-funded rail service | Referendum 2014 | Scoop.it

The only way to secure a publicly-run rail service in Scotland is to vote for independence, according to transport minister Keith Brown.

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Half-full vs half-empty

Half-full vs half-empty | Referendum 2014 | Scoop.it
"World's biggest wave energy farm off Lewis gets go-ahead" (Herald): "Edinburgh wave energy developer Aquamarine Power says the project along the coast at Lag na Greine, near Fivepenny Borve, descr...
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It seems Scotland doesn't have resources. Only impediments to independence.

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£222 million cost of 'free' university degrees for English in independent Scotland

£222 million cost of 'free' university degrees for English in independent Scotland | Referendum 2014 | Scoop.it
A separate Scotland’s taxpayers would have to spend at least an extra £222 million extra per year giving students from the remainder of the UK ‘free’ university tuition, a leading economist has estimated.
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Funny how they're always "leading economists" when they are aiding the British nationalist cause.

David Briggs's comment, Today, 8:20 AM
Surely Scottish students will be flooding into England when Scotland is Independent and in the EU. Scotland can't be expected to admit English students without a bit of reciprocity? Also what's to stop Scottish Universities from operating a quota system for those from out with our borders. Questions always breed more questions and as the old song says 'there are more questions than answers'
Peter A Bell's comment, Today, 8:32 AM
Of course there is a potential issue with students from other EU countries taking advantage of free tuition in Scotland. It is an issue now. And not only for Scotland. What irks me is the way each and every such issue is represented as affecting Scotland in some unique way that we are inherently unable to cope with. Every such issue, no matter how trivial relative to the overarching constitutional question, is portrayed as an insurmountable obstacle to independence.
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Bill Jamieson: Get real about our debt problems

Bill Jamieson: Get real about our debt problems | Referendum 2014 | Scoop.it
The independence debate has avoided the subject of our economy – but it must be confronted, writes Bill Jamieson
Peter A Bell's insight:

Not for nothing is economics called the dismal science. If we all took the jaundiced Jeremiads of dour doom-mongers as seriously as Bill Jamieson does it would be boom-time for manufacturers of the sharp instruments we'd all be applying to our vital blood vessels.

It is, of course, a nonsense to say that the independence debate has avoided the subject of our economy. It has been a constant theme. As, indeed, it must be. Not least because the economy provides unionists with a rich vein of material to mine for a campaign which relies almost entirely on scaremongering. You can always find an economist to tell the tale the way you want it told. It sometimes appears that there are only two kinds of books on economics. Baleful accounts of how the world is going to hell in a borrowed hand-basket. And hopeful advice on how this trend can be bucked by those with the perspicacity to buy the right book.

Bill Jamieson's complaint is not, in reality, that the subject of the economy is not being discussed. His complaint is that some are discussing it in terms that are not suffused with the degree of soul-sapping pessimism that he considers appropriate. It's basically just another whinge about how we're doing the referendum debate all wrong. A saturated market if ever there was one.

A debate that does not encompass the potential for progressive change is just as divorced from reality as a debate which disregards the difficulties that Scotland undoubtedly faces whether bound to the moribund British state or as an independent nation. Somebody needs to look for the bright side. Somebody needs to explore the possibilities. Somebody has to temper the grinding negativity of anti-independence propaganda with a positive perspective. If they don't then the queues at the razor counter could quickly become unmanageable. And doubtless some economist would be on hand to bemoan the catastrophic consequences for our economy.

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Tavish Scott: SNP needs to send positive message

Tavish Scott: SNP needs to send positive message | Referendum 2014 | Scoop.it
This week, the independence debate featured claim and counter claim. So, too, in the previous week.
David Briggs's comment, Today, 5:35 AM
How about a positive one from you Tavish. You're good at sneering from the sidelines I'll give you that.
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Charities have right to voice an opinion

The Scottish voluntary sector is made up of 45,000 organisations, of which half are registered charities.

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Better off out of it: a slogan whose time has finally come

Anyone who has reached an opinion about independence, for or against, has dealt with one argument above all others.

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Let the People Lead

Let the People Lead | Referendum 2014 | Scoop.it

I am more and more convinced that we need to raise awareness of having a written constitution for an Independent Scotland. We live in one of only three democracies that does not have a written constitution (Israel and New Zealand being the other two), despite Scottish sovereignty historically lying with the people rather than with the Parliament. While some praise the “flexibility” or “pragmatism” of Britain’s unwritten constitution, for me it is a symbol of the slow decay of the British state that refuses to be dragged into the 21st century where it counts. The pomp and pageantry of the Queen’s Speech and its arcane procedures may be “cherished” or “historic”, but they also alienate the average citizen from their democratic institutions, making them appear esoteric and distant and not worthwhile engaging with.


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Salmond's threat to ditch debt in sterling struggle

AN INDEPENDENT Scotland would walk away from the UK without paying a share of national debt unless it was able to keep the pound as part of a sterling zone, Alex Salmond has said.

Peter A Bell's insight:

The UK government wants to have it both ways. They want Scotland to take a full share of the debt while being denied the assets that we helped pay for.

David Briggs's comment, Today, 12:12 PM
Salmond said something along these lines today during FM's questions.
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Scottish independence: Corporate tax slash pledge

Scottish independence: Corporate tax slash pledge | Referendum 2014 | Scoop.it
AN INDEPENDENT Scotland would have one of the lowest corporate tax rates in the Western world in a bid to attract multinational firms, Alex Salmond has promised.
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Scottish referendum: BBC Scotland to invest £5m in extra programming

Scottish referendum: BBC Scotland to invest £5m in extra programming | Referendum 2014 | Scoop.it
Money will be spent on documentaries and live coverage of the results on TV, radio and online. By Jason Deans
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Knockout stages extended

Knockout stages extended | Referendum 2014 | Scoop.it

A stunning piece in the Telegraph eventually ran away with the vote in our British Loony Of The Week poll at the weekend. But what we didn’t realise at the time was that we were in fact only conducting the first semi-final. We’ve got two more absolute crackers for you to enjoy today.

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Britnat loonies to the left of us! Britnat loonies to the right of us!

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UK govt must talk to Scottish Govt | Scottish National Party

UK govt must talk to Scottish Govt | Scottish National Party | Referendum 2014 | Scoop.it

Following evidence given by John McCormick, Electoral Commissioner for Scotland, at the Referendum Bill Committee today (Thursday), the SNP is making a fresh call for the UK government to engage in pre-referendum talks.

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Lallands Peat Worrier: Not Scandinavia, but Ireland...

Lallands Peat Worrier: Not Scandinavia, but Ireland... | Referendum 2014 | Scoop.it
In a column in last weekend's Scotland on Sunday, former SNP MSP Andrew Wilson returned to a familiar theme, arguing that "British identity is key to debate on independence."  
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A good day to bury bad news

A good day to bury bad news | Referendum 2014 | Scoop.it

This story was on the front page of the Scotsman website when we were checking the papers at 7am. It’s now not only vanished from the front page, but from every index we can find. We tried finding it with the site’s Search function using the words in the headline, but none of them bring it up.

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Scotland warned independence could cost billions in renewable subsidies

Scotland warned independence could cost billions in renewable subsidies | Referendum 2014 | Scoop.it
Ed Davey tells conference that more than one-third of the UK's subsidies for wind, wave and tidal energy is spent in Scotland
Peter A Bell's insight:

A strong contender for scare story of the day. But we haven.t yet checked The Telegraph. Whether it wins the title or not it should be read in conjunction with this article from Left Foot Forward - Target to decarbonise power sector by 2030 could save every British family over £1,000

David Briggs's comment, Today, 8:19 AM
If the rest of the UK isn't investing in Green Energy whose fault is that ? The rest of the UK is notorious for their backwardness in implementing schemes like these.
Peter A Bell's comment, Today, 8:36 AM
And if they are not investing in renewables then they will have no choice but to access supplies from Scotland in order to meet their carbon emission reduction commitments. The alternative being nuclear, which nobody wants to invest in and which requires even bigger subsidies in any case.
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Murdo Fraser: Scottish Tories move with the times

Murdo Fraser: Scottish Tories move with the times | Referendum 2014 | Scoop.it
A shift to embrace further powers for Holyrood will put party back at the heart of the political landscape, writes Murdo Fraser
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Murdo Fraser seems quite excited about the fact that a few people in the British Conservative Party in Scotland are now sort of talking about the possibility of perhaps coming up with some pointless jam tomorrow pseudo-promises about "more powers" for the Scottish Parliament. Maybe! Assurances which surely nobody doubts will be rejected by the British Conservative Party as a whole supposing they return to power after the 2015 UK parliamentary election.

Is anybody other than Murdo Fraser inspired by this vacuous exercise?

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Scotland Has Every Right to Be Confident About Our Economic Prospects

Scotland Has Every Right to Be Confident About Our Economic Prospects | Referendum 2014 | Scoop.it
Scotland not only has massive economic strengths - we are financially strong too.
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Devolution: What Was It All For? | National Collective

Devolution: What Was It All For? | National Collective | Referendum 2014 | Scoop.it

The only Scotland I have ever known is one which makes its own decisions.

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100% of nothing

100% of nothing | Referendum 2014 | Scoop.it

The SNP has been assailed from all directions at once recently on the subject of Corporation Tax in an independent Scotland. Radical left-wingers say there’s no point in independence if we’re just going to ape neoliberal policy. The No camp insists both that a “race to the bottom” would be destructive and counter-productive and morally wrong, and that we wouldn’t be allowed to anyway.

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The Law of Unforeseen Consequences

The Law of Unforeseen Consequences | Referendum 2014 | Scoop.it

Who’d have thought you’d ever put Norman Tebbit (‘semi-trained polecat’) and Brian Wilson (the ‘Highland communist’) on the same page? But then, who’d have thought you’d have seen George Galloway leaping to the defence of Nigel Farage? The Union divide puts people floundering about in company they’d probably never keep but the twisted logic of deference to the British State is a funny matchmaker. Strange Days indeed.

David Briggs's comment, Today, 12:07 PM
The contents of the cabinet of Doctor Caligari?
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Scottish independence: Scots students could suffer

Scottish independence: Scots students could suffer | Referendum 2014 | Scoop.it
SCOTLAND’s universities would be inundated with applications from UK students looking for free tuition should the country become independent, it has been claimed.
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Simply scaremongering.

Bill Cruickshank's comment, May 22, 5:46 AM
I am beginning to love the Scotsman, its scare stories are better than the old Hammer horror movies.
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Opposition tell SNP's Humza Yousaf: independence campaign is no Arab Spring

Opposition tell SNP's Humza Yousaf: independence campaign is no Arab Spring | Referendum 2014 | Scoop.it

Opposition parties have criticised external affairs minister Humza Yousaf, claiming he has drawn "crass" and "irresponsible" comparisons between the Arab Spring and Scotland's own constitutional journey.

Peter A Bell's insight:

Yet again the British politicians posing as the opposition in Scotland show a quite staggering eagerness to make complete fools of themselves in pursuit of their petty political point-scoring.

Bill Cruickshank's comment, May 22, 5:54 AM
Humza's analogy is justified in that in UK General Elections we Scots rarely get the government we vote for. We would also have full access to revenues from our own natural resources and we would not have weapons of mass destruction camped 30 miles from our largest city. All good reasons for comparing the Arab Spring with the struggle for Scottish self determination.
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Scottish independence: it's still (almost) all about oil

Scottish independence: it's still (almost) all about oil | Referendum 2014 | Scoop.it
Can Scottish independence pave the way to a golden future? Perhaps! But the country will be dangerously reliant on a single source of revenue: oil.
Peter A Bell's insight:

It seems that Alex Massie has become so inured to the duplicity of British nationalism that he doesn't even notice it any more. He seems blind (or should that be deaf?) to the fact that, while unionists acknowledge Scotland's economic fitness out of one side of their mouths, the other side oozes with such venomous phrases as "basket case".

And what remarkable feat of the intellectual contortionist is it that allows Mr Massie to so adroitly avoid awareness of the very real "scaremongering" that daily pervades the mainstream media? Those must truly be industrial-grade blinkers he's lugging around!

There's a strange kind of double-think going on here too as Mr Massie simultaneously complains about the independence campaign providing answers and bemoans the "fact" that they don't. What's that all about?

The rest is hardly worth bothering about. Same old stuff. The British state is divinely ordained and beyond challenge. Scotland, uniquely among the nations of the world, must pass some contrived economic test in order to claim the constitutional status that other nations own as of right. And why don't we settle for less than we might have so as not to inconvenience the Alex Massies of this world.

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The depth and breadth of Scotland’s economy

The depth and breadth of Scotland’s economy | Referendum 2014 | Scoop.it

Today the Scottish Government has published a new economic analysis showing the depth and breadth of Scotland’s economy, which confirms that Scotland’s got what it takes to be a successful, independent country. And, as the paper points out, despite this wealth and potential, “despite our significant array of human, financial and natural resources we are not as prosperous a country as we should be”.

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