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The Scottish independence referendum and the debate about Scotland's constitutional future
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Fear of flying

Fear of flying | Referendum 2014 | Scoop.it
We suppose we should at least commend the "Vote No Borders" campaign for a certain level of frankness. While their output is little different to the daily hysterical fearmongering of "Better Togeth...
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The reverse apology

The reverse apology | Referendum 2014 | Scoop.it
We weren't going to post today, but we couldn't let this one just sneak past under the cover of Christmas, because it says so much about how the UK media operates. That's the delightful Fraser Nels...
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Nationality for nationalists

Nationality for nationalists | Referendum 2014 | Scoop.it

Yesterday we passingly mentioned how Home Secretary Theresa May this week claimed that Scots could lose their British passports and be denied dual nationality following a ‘Yes’ vote for independence in next year’s referendum.


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Jim Arnott's curator insight, June 13, 2013 1:24 AM

I truly hope that the Uninists will continue their banal claims and assertions. It can only mean one thing: they are losing the plot and will lose the vote in 2014.

 

Vote Yes in the 2014 Referendum on independence for Scotland.

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Scottish independence: Border passport check claim

Scottish independence: Border passport check claim | Referendum 2014 | Scoop.it
ALEX Salmond’s plans to attract immigrants to an independent Scotland would result in passports having to be presented at the English border, the UK government has suggested.
Peter A Bell's insight:

It is interesting, if unsurprising, that The Scotsman contrived to ignore arguably the most significant paragraph in this latest piece of UK government anti-independence propaganda. Allow me to correct this omission.

"The Home Office also confirmed that Scottish citizens would be entitled to joint citizenship in the "continuing United Kingdom" after independence, allowing them to carry British passports, suggesting further convergence between the UK and Scottish governments."

Another piece of inane British nationalist scaremongering blown apart.

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Brian Wilson: SNP con can’t mask pensions reality

Brian Wilson: SNP con can’t mask pensions reality | Referendum 2014 | Scoop.it
We cannot hope to keep managing UK pensions and other services if we vote for independence, writes Brian Wilson
Peter A Bell's insight:

Having steeled myself to the onerous task of scanning another of Wilson's jaundiced Jeremiads, I once again find myself grateful for the has-been status that has been so richly earned by this miserable, soul-sucking doom-monger. But the relief of knowing that Wilson will never be in a position to bring his woeful attitudes to bear on public policy here is tempered by the knowledge that British Labour in Scotland are the inheritors of his sneering contempt for Scotland and its people.

By Wilson's account, there is nothing that the people of Scotland are capable of absent the paternalistic guidance of a divinely-ordained and endlessly beneficent British state. Even the things that we do perfectly well at the moment we will cease to be able to do at all if we choose not to have our British betters at our shoulder.

In a spirit of generosity we might assume that Wilson saw no need to read the report to which he refers. He simply picks up the propaganda line handed to him by the likes of Simon Johnson - whose desperately contorted accounts of Scottish politics in The Telegraph are rapidly becoming the stuff of legend. Alternatively, we must believe that, having read the report, Wilson has decided to wilfully misrepresent its contents.

For the reality is that the report does not in any way suggest that Scotland would be obliged to maintain the status quo in terms of welfare policy. It merely points out that both Scotland and the rest of the UK (rUK) would probably find it convenient to cooperate over the mechanics of welfare payment at least for a transitional period.

The experts who authored the report envisage no insurmountable difficulties in this. It is only those on the "eccentric" fringe of British nationalism such as Brian Wilson who react to any suggestion that independence will involve some measure of reorganisation and the taking on of responsibilities with plaintive cries of, "We cannae dae it!".

Pathetic!

For sure, we almost certainly couldn't do it with Wilson or his successors in charge. But we've moved on massively from the timid wee pretendy Scottish Parliament and government that Wilson so bitterly resents and, apparently, continues to fervently hope will fail and dissolve. The new reality that is that the people of Scotland have grown in confidence and are looking for the power to go with it. While Wilson and his ilk insist that we must meekly accept whatever London wishes on us, increasing numbers of people in Scotland are coming to the realisation that we can surely do better without the millstone of Westminster around our necks.

The article, which might well have been titled "Lamentations of a Loser", finishes with yet more evidence of Wilson's dumb faith in the unchallengeable righteousness of the British state. When Theresa May comes out with some witlessly uninformed drivel about passports, Wilson doesn't even think to question it. He blithely assumes that the UK government can do what it pleases to Scotland. No more!

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Charles Patrick O'Brien's comment, June 13, 2013 1:28 AM
Never liked the Labour attitude,it was always arrogant,and looked down on others or that is the way I felt it.
Jim Arnott's comment, June 13, 2013 1:51 AM
Peter you have this one slightly wrong. Wilson can't be a has-been because to be a has-been you have to have been somebody. The only thing Wilson ever was was a nonentity and a good one at that.
Peter A Bell's comment, June 13, 2013 2:08 AM
I stand corrected, Jim.
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Scottish independence: UK passport loss indication

Scottish independence: UK passport loss indication | Referendum 2014 | Scoop.it
HOME Secretary Theresa May has strongly indicated that Scots could lose their British passports and be denied dual nationality following a vote for independence in next year’s referendum.
Peter A Bell's insight:

Why would I want to be identified with a state which seeks to coerce my compliance with threats - however feeble and ineffectual?

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David Briggs's comment, June 11, 2013 5:03 AM
Maybe, could be, might, but never say 'will be'. We can all understand the not quite threatening note to this womans statements. Keep them coming Theresa.