Referendum 2014
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The Scottish independence referendum and the debate about Scotland's constitutional future
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Third Time's a Charm...

Third Time's a Charm... | Referendum 2014 | Scoop.it

In 1979, 51.6% of voters chose to change the way Scotland was governed, to pull back some powers to Scotland itself. But it didn’t happen because of an amendment by George Cunningham – a Labour MP representing a constituency not even in Scotland – which required that that majority had to be above 40% of the total electorate.


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Dennis Canavan: how Thatcher reinforced the case for Scottish independence

DENNIS CANAVAN reflects on the death of Baroness Thatcher

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Alf Young: Seeking a strong political leader

Alf Young: Seeking a strong political leader | Referendum 2014 | Scoop.it
Whatever the rights and wrongs of Thatcher’s legacy, we need someone equal to her convictions, writes Alf Young
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Gerry Hassan: Nation in crisis of democratic faith

Gerry Hassan: Nation in crisis of democratic faith | Referendum 2014 | Scoop.it
MARGARET Thatcher’s death has seen many in Britain look deeper into the past to determine their present, but what kind of country are we celebrating, asks Gerry Hassan
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Ding Dong

Ding Dong | Referendum 2014 | Scoop.it

Despite desperate (frantic) attempts to re-write history with variations of ‘Scotland never rejected Thatcher’  by an assortment of  scribes (no names necessary*) the reality is, we did. This is a really good time to reflect on what that rejection meant and means today.

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Maggie misery exposed as we reveal true cost of Thatcherism to Scotland's decimated industrial workforce.

Maggie misery exposed as we reveal true cost of Thatcherism to Scotland's decimated industrial workforce. | Referendum 2014 | Scoop.it
OUR gravestone front page from yesterday has praised for highlighting the real legacy of Thatcher's brutal economic policy on the people of Scotland.
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Robertson: Our condolences... but Scotland will never forget

Robertson: Our condolences... but Scotland will never forget | Referendum 2014 | Scoop.it
THE SNP’S House of Commons supremo rips into Baroness Thatcher
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Peter Jones: Farewell the midwife of devolution

Peter Jones: Farewell the midwife of devolution | Referendum 2014 | Scoop.it
Meeting Margaret Thatcher was no laughing matter and this was partly the reason Scots were so hostile to her, writes Peter Jones
Peter A Bell's insight:

This is bollox! Devolution was going to happen anyway. It was not being given. It was being taken.

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Man behind poll tax is Cameron's adviser on Scotland

Man behind poll tax is Cameron's adviser on Scotland | Referendum 2014 | Scoop.it
Last month David Cameron appointed Andrew Dunlop as his new adviser on Scotland. Mr Dunlop was hurriedly given the job in order to bolster the Conservatives' ailing campaign against Scottish independence. Andrew Dunlop is well-known in Conservative circles for his lobbying work for right wing pressure groups and think tanks.
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For A' That 21 - The Ex PM & Libel

For A' That 21 - The Ex PM & Libel | Referendum 2014 | Scoop.it
For episode 21 of the For A' That podcast, Andrew and I were joined by Peter Bell. We talked about the passing of Thatcher from a number of different perspectives including historical revisionism, ...
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Thatcher’s death tribute orgy is a ghastly warning of a British future

Thatcher’s death tribute orgy is a ghastly warning of a British future | Referendum 2014 | Scoop.it

The Voice was going to press as Margaret Thatcher’s death was announced, triggering a tsunami of fawning tributes about her greatness, leadership, wisdom and so forth with Lords, ex-cabinet ministers, the Prime Minster and his echo Nick Clegg among those getting in on the act.

 

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THE FABLE OF THE FEEBLE FIFTY

“Never was so little achieved by so many in defence of so few” - the motto of the fabled “Feeble Fifty”. The fearless cadre of Labour MPs who back in the 80s were the last line of defence in the protection of Scotland from the excesses of the Thatcher Government.

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ME AND MARGARET THATCHER

Last week has been almost exclusively about Margaret Thatcher, and the world quite rightly has paid tribute to The UK’s first female Prime Minister and longest serving PM of the last century. Condolences have also been expressed to family and friends and I too would like to express my regret at her passing.

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Ian Swanson: Should Scotland be thankful for Thatcher?

Ian Swanson: Should Scotland be thankful for Thatcher? | Referendum 2014 | Scoop.it
SCOTLAND is not the first place anyone would come seeking glowing tributes to Margaret Thatcher.
Peter A Bell's insight:

Ian Swanson is not the only one peddling this nonsense about Thatcher being the "midwife of devolution". Over the last few days this assertion has become something of a political cliché.  It's almost as if we're supposed to be grateful to her for being such a totally repugnant individual who treated Scotland and its people with a contempt that she was far to arrogant to try and conceal.

The reality is that the only thing Thatcher spawned - other than degradation and misery for millions - was the equally repellent Tony Blair and the New Labour project. A regime that embraced the British nationalist fervour of Thatcherism every bit as completely and enthusiastically as it embraced the rest of Thatcher's socially corrosive and economically destructive ideology.

The British state, whether under Thatcher or any of her heirs, would have prevented devolution if they could. We have nothing whatever to be grateful to them for. Devolution, like independence, is not given, it is taken. Through the agency of the SNP the people of Scotland wrenched such powers as we have from the jealous grasp of the British state. Make no mistake! The British state would have those powers back if it could. Only a YES vote in next year's referendum will ensure that we keep what we have won. And we won't be beholden to anyone for that. Especially not the vile Thatcher.

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How Jimmy Goodfellow demonstrated Thatcher's society

MY MATERNAL grandfather was a refrigeration engineer called Jimmy Goodfellow who baked remarkable cakes and loved Margaret Thatcher.

 

Peter A Bell's insight:

Not all of Thatcher's back-pedalling nor any amount of post hoc rationalisation by her acolytes will alter the meaning of what she said. Her apologists insist that we look at her denial of society in the context of a fuller quote. Why stop there? Let's look at it in a wider context still. The context of all her political works. In that context the assertion that there is no such thing as society can be seen as a perfect fit with Thatcher's repellent ideology and obnoxious personality.

The only question remaining is whether it was a statement of belief, or wishful thinking.

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Ross Martin: How Thatcher plays in the referendum

Ross Martin: How Thatcher plays in the referendum | Referendum 2014 | Scoop.it
The passing of Margaret Thatcher will have a bearing on next year’s referendum, and her likely toxic epitaph in Scotland will work better for one side than the other, writes Ross Martin
Peter A Bell's insight:

"Or will the media blitz covering the death of this “Great British Prime Minister” simply highlight her likely toxic epitaph in Scotland, thereby pushing more people into the Yes camp? That would be ironic indeed."

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The history the SNP is trying to forget - Telegraph

The history the SNP is trying to forget - Telegraph | Referendum 2014 | Scoop.it
The Nats are desperately trying to gloss over the fact that their votes in the House of Commons helped put Margaret Thatcher on the road to power
Peter A Bell's insight:

In the second sentence it should be "they", not "them". But since Poor Old Cockers has pretty much everything else wrong I don't suppose appalling schoolboy grammar gaffes will make a helluva lot of difference.

Poor Old Cockers is either ignorant of, or chooses to ignore, or is just plain dishonest about several rather important facts. Like the by-election losses and defections that eroded Labour's majority. Like the Winter of Discontent and the alienation of the unions that had sealed the fate of Callaghan's government long before the vote of no confidence.

Then there's Labour's betrayal of Scotland when they repealed the Scotland Bill. Callaghan was offered a deal by the SNP group that would have kept Labour in power a while longer. But in a move that presaged a similar move by Gordon Brown three decades later, Callaghan opted for handing over to the Tories instead.

Better a Tory government in London than any kind of government in Scotland. How little British Labour has changed.

Poor Old Cockers also ignores/is ignorant of/lies about the role of the ever-treacherous Liberals, firstly in reneging on their pact with Labour, then in openly declaring that they would support a motion of no confidence.

The bottom line is that it was Labour's catalogue of failures and betrayals that opened the door for Thatcher. All the crap about the SNP being to blame is an article of faith with British Labour in Scotland. I suppose we should no longer be surprised to hear a Tory singing from the same hymn sheet.

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Scottish Devolution and the Labour myth

Scottish Devolution and the Labour myth | Referendum 2014 | Scoop.it
Scottish Devolution and the Labour myth...

 

"As recently as fifteen years ago few people dreamed that Scotland would ever reach the stage of being given the chance to vote for independence.

 

It was a dream that for centuries had seemed beyond realisation, and many who had spent their entire lives working for it never lived to see the chance of realising it. So what triggered the change in its prospects?" - James Wilkie

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