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The Scottish independence referendum and the debate about Scotland's constitutional future
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No place like home rule

No place like home rule | Referendum 2014 | Scoop.it

If there’s one phrase that has long bedevilled the Liberal party and its descendants, it’s ‘home rule’. What are we supposed to understand by it? And perhaps more to the point, what do modern Lib Dems understand by it?


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Take the high(land) road

Take the high(land) road | Referendum 2014 | Scoop.it

Last week the Scottish Government’s Rural Affairs Secretary, Richard Lochhead found himself accused of ‘politicising’ the Royal Highland Show, for hosting a discussion on the potential benefits of independence to the farming community.

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Let Scotland borrow £1bn from UK in hard times, say Lib Dems

Let Scotland borrow £1bn from UK in hard times, say Lib Dems | Referendum 2014 | Scoop.it
the Scottish Parliament should be given powers to borrow up to £1 billion from UK coffers in the hard times to boost the country’s economy, an influential Liberal Democrat Commission is to recommend.
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Scotland should raise two-thirds of its own taxes, says former Lib Dem leader

Scotland should raise two-thirds of its own taxes, says former Lib Dem leader | Referendum 2014 | Scoop.it
Sir Menzies Campbell sets out plans for 'home rule' if independence is defeated in referendum...
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Peter A Bell's comment, October 16, 2012 2:33 PM
Why should Scotland settle for less than it is entitled to? Even if there was a chance the LibDems could deliver, which there isn't, it makes no sense. The whole thing has been a pointless and meaningless exercise whose only purpose is to allow the LibDems to TALK about more powers while actually campaigning AGAINST further devolution. Both "Scottish" Labour and their Tory allies are conducting similar exercises. And they are just as dishonest.
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'Home Rule' plan to be unveiled

'Home Rule' plan to be unveiled | Referendum 2014 | Scoop.it
Scotland would raise around two thirds of all the money it spends, under proposals due to be unveiled by the Scottish Liberal Democrats.
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Lords decision shows Westminster 'unreformable' | Scottish National Party

Lords decision shows Westminster 'unreformable' | Scottish National Party | Referendum 2014 | Scoop.it

Commenting on the announcement that plans for reform of the House of Lords are to be abandoned, SNP MP Angus MacNeil said the decision showed that Westminster was unreformable – and that, with the coalition making such a mess of constitutional reform at Westminster, they should stop interfering in the process of Scotland's constitutional future.

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The Case For Scottish Independence: Devolution has failed – time to try something else

By Graeme Cowie  I am a Liberal Democrat. I am not a nationalist. I identify as Glaswegian, Scottish, British and European. I support Scottish independence. Until that last sentence, most within t...
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LibDems' Trident plans "neither wanted nor needed" | Scottish National Party

LibDems' Trident plans "neither wanted nor needed" | Scottish National Party | Referendum 2014 | Scoop.it

Commenting on a report in the Sunday Times that the LibDems' plans to still spend billions on weapons of mass destruction as a replacement to Trident SNP MSP Bill Kidd – a member of the Council of Parliamentarians for Nuclear Non-proliferation and Disarmament - said:

 

“Whether Tory, Labour or LibDem the UK government is preparing to waste billions on replacing Trident nuclear weapons that are neither wanted nor needed."

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Michael Moore out as Lib Dems up referendum heat

Michael Moore out as Lib Dems up referendum heat | Referendum 2014 | Scoop.it
THE Scottish independence debate is set to become fiercer, after Alistair Carmichael, a man who admits he has a reputation as “a bruiser”, replaced the measured Michael Moore as Scottish Secretary.
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It really doesn't matter who the messenger is if the message remains the same. Whether it's Moore or Carmichael makes no difference. It will be the same grinding negativity, banal jingoism and casual denigration of Scotland.

British nationalists have nothing new to say. The strategy now is to deny the Yes campaign a platform and to close down debate as far as possible. Why else would you field a "bruiser" rather than someone who is equipped to address the real issues?

The LibDems reckon they've found their Anas Sarwar. That they actually seem proud of this tells us all we need to know.

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SLD conference overwhelmingly backs Home Rule for Scotland

SLD conference overwhelmingly backs Home Rule for Scotland | Referendum 2014 | Scoop.it
The Scottish Liberal Democrats overwhelmingly supported the Home Rule and Community Rule Commission’s report: ‘Federalism: the best future for Scotland’ at Conference today.
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Lib Dems accused of "going backwards" on devolution as party drops plans to devolve key powers

Lib Dems accused of "going backwards" on devolution as party drops plans to devolve key powers | Referendum 2014 | Scoop.it
The Lib Dems have been accused of 'going backwards' on devolution after media reports revealed that powers previously earmarked by the party for transfer to the Scottish Parliament, have now been dropped from new proposals.
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100 years on and Lib Dems go backwards on Scotland | Scottish National Party

100 years on and Lib Dems go backwards on Scotland | Scottish National Party | Referendum 2014 | Scoop.it

The Lib Dems’ latest offering to the independence referendum debate shows they are a party going backwards, an SNP MSP has said.

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LibDem members reprimanded for Yes Scotland stall protest

SCOTS LibDem leader Willie Rennie has demonstrated a distinctly illiberal side by reprimanding five members who wrote to The Herald protesting at the decision to deny pro- independence campaigners Yes Scotland a stall at the party's conference.

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SNP and Lib Dems clash over constitutional future of Northern Isles - Shetland Times Online

SNP and Lib Dems clash over constitutional future of Northern Isles - Shetland Times Online | Referendum 2014 | Scoop.it
SNP and Lib Dems clash over constitutional future of Northern IslesShetland Times OnlineThe SNP and Liberal Democrats have clashed over the future of the Northern Isles should they reject independence and the rest of Scotland vote for it in a...
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Opinion: All Liberal Democrats must campaign for a Federal UK

Opinion: All Liberal Democrats must campaign for a Federal UK | Referendum 2014 | Scoop.it
For Scotland that meant not just the establishment of a Scottish Parliament but the transfer of the maximum amount of legislative, administrative and financial powers consonant with being a nation within a federal state.
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Peter A Bell's comment, March 21, 2012 5:57 PM
We've been hearing talk of this this "Home Rule" thing from Liberals/LibDems for decades. Much as the British Labour & Unionist Party would be all for Scottish Home Rule right up to the point where the votes had been counted. Many of us are wondering why, if this has "always" been LibDem policy, they are only now getting around to trying to define what it actually means.

And even if they do come up with a proposal that has some appeal for a few people they still have to overcome a very fundamental problem. Nobody trusts the LibDems.

But there is one big question that faces all proponents of "Home Rule" and the "Devos" that proliferate at a similar rate to anti-independence campaign leaders. That question is, "WHY?". Why would we settle for less than we might have? Independence gives us all that any of these other proposals do and more. So why would we put constraints on ourselves?

The LibDems, like their Tory and British Labour & Unionist Party allies, are asking the people of Scotland to trade their nation's independence for something that, even in the unlikely event that it is ever actually delivered, is significantly less than that to which they are fully entitled. Why would we do that?