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Are U.S. Students Ready to Compete? : Education Next

It has been argued that the overall past success of the U.S. economy suggests that high-school math performance is not that critical for sustained growth in economic productivity. After all, U.S. students trailed their peers in the very first international survey undertaken nearly 50 years ago. That is the wrong message to take away however. Other factors contributed to the relatively high rate of growth in economic productivity during the last half of the 20th century, including the openness of the country’s markets, respect for property rights, low levels of political corruption, and limited intrusion of government into the operations of the marketplace. The United States, moreover, has always benefited from the in-migration of talent from abroad.

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For a few days now, I've been wondering about the relationship of a nation's Nobel Prize winners to PISA scores. I finally decided to ask the question in Google. Here's one hit: "Clearly the countries with the worst PISA scores are those with the most impressive Nobel record. Equally significant, the correlation between PISA performance and GDP per capita is, as both Baker and Chang suggest, rather weak (less than 0.5)." http://www.opendemocracy.net/ourkingdom/jeremy-fox/are-pisa-scores-really-that-important.

 

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Top 10 Countries With Most Nobel Prize Winners In the World

Top 10 Countries With Most Nobel Prize Winners In the World | Writing, Research, Applied Thinking and Applied Theory: Solutions with Interesting Implications, Problem Solving, Teaching and Research driven solutions | Scoop.it
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I wonder if the PISAs offer valid indicators or predictors of military thinking and strategic skills or even for creativity. It strikes me that the USA still has the highest number of Nobel Prize Winners (http://www.whichcountry.co/top-10-countries-with-most-nobel-prize-winners-in-the-world/, orhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nobel_laureates_by_country). I wonder how this is explained? We could look at Nobel Science Winners per capita to consider other measureshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Nobel_laureates_per_capita. We could and should also research innovations and patents in terms of quantity and quality. I'm wondering about the quality of education may have a few more frames with which to really address the true issues of education in public schools (elementary or secondary) or in higher education (colleges and universities). However, this is not research I have done. I think getting to valid and useful answers will need some high levels of research skills and access.  less… 

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Are PISA scores really that important? | openDemocracy

Are PISA scores really that important? | openDemocracy | Writing, Research, Applied Thinking and Applied Theory: Solutions with Interesting Implications, Problem Solving, Teaching and Research driven solutions | Scoop.it

Finding PISA sceptics proved easier than I expected.  A Huffington Post articleby Diane Ravitch, professor of education at New York University dismisses international test scores as worthless. While the US has never been first in the world, nor even near the top, on international tests, Ravitch claims it has done pretty well economically and in terms of scientific invention and business creativity - in fact better on many measures than any other nation. She bases these assertions partly on her own observations but more on a paper by Keith Baker, a retired researcher at the US Department of Education, entitled Are International Tests Worth Anything?

 
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For a few days now, I've been wondering about the relationship of a nation's Nobel Prize winners to PISA scores. I finally decided to ask the question in Google. Here's one hit: "Clearly the countries with the worst PISA scores are those with the most impressive Nobel record. Equally significant, the correlation between PISA performance and GDP per capita is, as both Baker and Chang suggest, rather weak (less than 0.5)."

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