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Smells Like Teen Enron: Pandora Sues Songwriters Again. Why?

Smells Like Teen Enron: Pandora Sues Songwriters Again. Why? | Kill The Record Industry | Scoop.it

Pandora is currently suing BMI songwriters over the rate it will pay for the next 4 or 5 years.

Pandora wants to pay 1.75%.  BMI songwriters would like them to pay 2.5%. In 2014 Pandora paid BMI $16.1 million dollars.   So basically Pandora is using the entire apparatus of the federal courts to get a reduction of less than $7 million dollars in 2015.  If it’s a 4 year deal that means Pandora saves $28 million dollars (Pandora growth has virtually stopped).  Court cases like this have typically cost the parties tens of millions of dollars.  This does not include the millions it costs taxpayers.

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Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?

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Songwriters are Under Attack by Pandora, Speak Out and Sign the Petition

Songwriters are Under Attack by Pandora, Speak Out and Sign the Petition | Kill The Record Industry | Scoop.it
The rights of songwriters are under attack. Pandora Media Inc., which controls 70% of the US streaming market, has launched an aggressive campaign to pay songwriters and composers less than a fair market share for their work – even as the company’s revenue and listener base has soared.
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Start-ups & streaming services should dance to songwriters tunes. Not the other way around.

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Michael Monreal's curator insight, November 4, 2013 4:02 PM

This article show's how pandora is giving songwriters less pay for streaming there songs.

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Digital Music News - Several Artists Are Now 'Strongly Considering' Removing Content from Pandora...

Digital Music News - Several Artists Are Now 'Strongly Considering' Removing Content from Pandora... | Kill The Record Industry | Scoop.it

The 'nuclear option,' as one source put it, would involve forcible removals of song catalogs from Pandora in response to continued artist hostility.  Which may have seemed absolutely unthinkable just months ago, but now seems appropriate against a rising artist backlash

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Pandora, for artists it all goes down this: get screwed over or leave.

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Winston Mills's curator insight, July 15, 2013 8:51 PM

An influential executive is planning on publishing a "how-to" guide to taking down music content on Pandora, based on the ideas of Pandora's artist hostility.  Because the artists are being treated badly, financially, many are considering removing themselves and their work from Pandora.  Pro: This is a good thing that artists are beginning to stand up for their work and what they represent.  They have noticed an eighty-five percent cut of their royalties from their millions of "songs played," and they are looking to receive the money that they deserve.  Con: Unfortunately for the audience, we will have to suffer from some, if not all, of our favorite artists being removed, or removing themselves from Pandora.  Pandora has been beat up in this process, and Pink Floyd in particular, has been public in saying, "Pandora is tricking artists into signing their own pay cut." 

Alfredo Bravo's comment, August 13, 2013 7:40 PM
this was one of the main forms of music streams, the negative side of it is that artist were treated bad. but in the positive side maybe pandora would make a reform to treat the artists well in the future.
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Digital Music News - Pink Floyd Blasts Pandora for "Tricking Artists Into Signing Their Own Paycuts..."

Digital Music News - Pink Floyd Blasts Pandora for "Tricking Artists Into Signing Their Own Paycuts..." | Kill The Record Industry | Scoop.it

"Of course, this letter doesn't say anything about an 85 percent artist pay cut. That would probably turn off most musicians who might consider signing on.  All it says about royalties is 'we are all fervent advocates for the fair treatment of artists."

Pierre Priot's insight:

"Money it's a crime,
Share it fairly but don't take a slice of my pie"

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Pascale Mousset's comment, June 24, 2013 3:36 AM
Cherry on the pie !
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With downloads dwindling, music publishers throw a roadblock into Apple's iRadio plans

With downloads dwindling, music publishers throw a roadblock into Apple's iRadio plans | Kill The Record Industry | Scoop.it
For years, when it came to driving negotiations with internet music services over licensing, the top record labels were the locomotive and the publishers were the caboose. If the labels licensed...
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So basically, music publishers want more money from music streaming, and Apple didn't see that coming?

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BOON YUXIN's curator insight, January 19, 4:06 PM

While digital music comes as the majority of the music selling, traditional record label faces some questions like being obsoleted. But this article share the voice of some people who against this situation. When I download more music from the digital retailer, I start to miss the CD sales. This article reminds me to think about the both sides of digital downloading. 

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Google Play marks subscription music service for internet giant

Google Play marks subscription music service for internet giant | Kill The Record Industry | Scoop.it
Google Inc. upended the Internet with its search engine.
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Google Play Music All Access announced Pandora and Spotify features for $10 per month.

The undisclosed figure is: how much of this money will end up in artists' pockets?

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For labels, Apple's iRadio deal could be sweeter than Pandora

For labels, Apple's iRadio deal could be sweeter than Pandora | Kill The Record Industry | Scoop.it
Apple is close to a deal with two major music labels to bring to life its streaming-music service, which could pay labels better than Pandora does. Read this article by Paul Sloan on CNET News.
Pierre Priot's insight:

Apple willing to concede fair iRadio deals to labels? Damn, Pandora must be really freaking them out!

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EungKyun Kim's curator insight, April 13, 2014 11:25 PM

As Apple started to jump in to the music streaming industry, they have to prepare for their largest competitor, Pandora. It was very interesting that Apple pays the labels a per-stream rate which is less than what Padora pays. However, Apple offers a new revenue stream from advertisement. I think Apple established a great strategy against Pandora.

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Small Rival Music Service Takes Aim at Pandora

Small Rival Music Service Takes Aim at Pandora | Kill The Record Industry | Scoop.it
Slacker, a digital music service trying to challenge the dominance of Pandora, is playing up the rivalry in a new campaign.
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Every Goliath needs a David

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Last.fm revels in its scrobbles as radio bar is raised farther

Last.fm revels in its scrobbles as radio bar is raised farther | Kill The Record Industry | Scoop.it
Five years after its $280 million acquisition, the music service is still struggling to turn a profit for CBS, if latest efforts to tactically abandon and charge for royalty-incurring personalised radio are anything to go by.
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Why Does the Music Industry Seem to Hate Fairness? - SlashGear

Why Does the Music Industry Seem to Hate Fairness? - SlashGear | Kill The Record Industry | Scoop.it

Is it just me or does the music industry really, really hate fairness? For years now, we’ve been hearing about labels trying to limit what we can access on digital stores and musicians holding out on offering their tracks because of the so-called “unfairness” across the Web.

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SoundExchange Reveals What Pandora Pays Artists - hypebot

SoundExchange Reveals What Pandora Pays Artists - hypebot | Kill The Record Industry | Scoop.it
By Eliot Van Buskirk of Evolver.fm. Earlier this month, Pandora revealed artist payouts in the millions, as part of its ongoing campaign to reduce the royalty rate for online radio — or at least add a similar burden to FM radio, which pays no...
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Why the music industry is trying—and failing—to crush Pandora

Why the music industry is trying—and failing—to crush Pandora | Kill The Record Industry | Scoop.it

Pandora had been seeking to lower the amount it pays to publishers in royalties to be in line with that paid by terrestrial radio stations —  1.7% of gross annual revenue. Pandora’s argument was that its service is radio-like: Yes, you can personalize what you listen to, but you cannot play songs on demand, at your will, or offline. ASCAP had been seeking to increase rates to as high as 3% of Pandora’s gross revenue, citing the much higher rates paid by other digital services, such as Spotify. The court ended up ruling last month that the rate would stay unchanged at 1.85%.

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Great piece about Pandora and composition vs. performances rights.

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Kyle Walker's curator insight, July 20, 2014 5:45 PM

It turns out Pandora has a strong case when it comes to the fairness of their rates. Even though ASCAP and every artist disagrees, Pandora some how has a safety net. If I was a songwriter I would start targeting the record labels for more of a cut. It is upsetting that at the end of the day business comes before product.

Hope Hausman's curator insight, October 30, 2014 9:55 AM

Why would you want to crash Pandora!?! Pandora is a great music app that I adore. My family even uses it for Christmas sometimes. Why would you want to crash such a fantastic app that's extremely popular? 

Josh Granese's curator insight, November 4, 2014 11:52 AM

I honestly don't even believe that 3% is enough money to pay back to the people who make Pandora what it is. Without the artists, Pandora wouldn't make any kind of money at all, it wouldn't exist. People made Pandora the size it is today through word of mouth and networking. But we never see a check. The artists that actually do get their music on Pandora deserve to be compensated WAY more than what they are.

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Pandora scores legal victory against music publishers

Pandora scores legal victory against music publishers | Kill The Record Industry | Scoop.it
A court ruling upholds the Internet radio service's motion that it's allowed to play all works covered by ASCAP without restriction. Read this article by Lance Whitney on CNET News.
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470,000 songwriters & composers can just shut up now. Pandora got it all covered by its deal with ASCAP.

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Songwriter furious that Pandora played his song more than 1.1MILLION times and only paid him $16.89 in royalties

Songwriter furious that Pandora played his song more than 1.1MILLION times and only paid him $16.89 in royalties | Kill The Record Industry | Scoop.it
David Lowery, who is best known as the lead singer for the 1990s alternative rock ban Cracker, said he is outraged that Pandora is now campaigning to lower royalty payments for songwriters even farther.
Pierre Priot's insight:

Pandora lobbying for royalties rate cuts ; could David Lowery's royalties be any lower?

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Winston Mills's curator insight, July 15, 2013 8:44 PM

David Lowery made a bold move by posting his bank statement, which covered all of his royalties in the fourth quarter of 2012.  He clearly felt cheated by Pandora and other media outlets.  He claims to have only made $16.89 in royalties after having his material played over one million times.  In my opinion, artists and musicians are being greatly cheated by media services, and the royalties per play should go up to a more respectable price.  I know that I would be annoyed if my millions of streams only resulted in a couple of hundred bucks. 

Michael Monreal's curator insight, November 4, 2013 4:24 PM

This article give's us another example of what Pandora doing in regards to royalties towards Songwriters.

 

Pro's: It give's the songwriter the ability to present there work to the public in vast numbers.

Cons: As explained in the article David Lowery had his song played over a million time's but was given a very small amount of money for his work, and Pandora is trying to lower there payments as of today.

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Pandora buys South Dakota radio station in bid for lower royalty rates

Pandora buys South Dakota radio station in bid for lower royalty rates | Kill The Record Industry | Scoop.it
Pandora is angry about the royalties it's paying to music publishers, so the company is buying a radio station in South Dakota mainly to score lower rates.
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That's a cheap move!

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Karinaa Hernández's comment, June 12, 2013 8:22 PM
So interesting!!
Pascale Mousset's comment, June 13, 2013 5:18 AM
Rien ne l'arrête hélas
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Pandora Stock Jumps As Revenue Beats The Street, Grows 58% To $128.5M; Mobile Ad Revenue Hits Record High | TechCrunch

Pandora Stock Jumps As Revenue Beats The Street, Grows 58% To $128.5M; Mobile Ad Revenue Hits Record High | TechCrunch | Kill The Record Industry | Scoop.it
Pandora has had a busy quarter. In March, the social radio company saw its long-time CEO Joe Kennedy abruptly step down, leaving the board to scramble to find a replacement.
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Turns out Pandora's box is full of money.

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FMQB: Radio Industry News, Music Industry Updates, Arbitron Ratings, Music News and more!

FMQB: Radio Industry News, Music Industry Updates, Arbitron Ratings, Music News and more! | Kill The Record Industry | Scoop.it

Popular Internet music service Pandora announced today that it has reached a milestone of 200 million registered users in the U.S. The service had its first user register in the summer of 2005 and announced 100 million registered users in July of 2011, six years after the launch of the service. Pandora reached the 200 million registered user mark less than 2 years later.

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Pandora reaches 200 M users, and celebrates with a milestone infographic

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Biting the hand that feeds you: why are record labels fighting Pandora?

Biting the hand that feeds you: why are record labels fighting Pandora? | Kill The Record Industry | Scoop.it
A few years ago, leaders from the major record companies planted the seeds from which they hoped would spring the next generation of music distributors.


Apple's iTunes, the overwhelming...
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Well, labels will stop fighting when they'll be offered fair deals.

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Show Up Public's curator insight, April 1, 2013 4:29 PM

Bottomline, Pandora pays less to the record industry's than their darling Spotify. While Pandora is trying to change the law (a bill that went no where) so they can pay less, Spotify pays more by dealing directly with labels as oppose to skirting around them with regulations in US law for web radio. Meanwhile here comes Apple with IRadio which will enter the streaming goldrush having already established a relationship with the labels to with whom the labels see as an industry leader thought Apple is asking to pay the least to labels. But according to the above article diversification and higher royalty rates (paid to labels, not artists) may be what the labels want and let the streaming services duke it out in the end.



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Sony/ATV gets 25 percent increase in Pandora royalties

Sony/ATV gets 25 percent increase in Pandora royalties | Kill The Record Industry | Scoop.it
Pandora’s costs are likely to rise.Music publisher Sony/ATV has wrangled a 25 percent increase in royalties from the Oakland, Calif.-based Internet radio player, The Post has learned. The...
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royalty raise, who's next?

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LEAKED: MySpace's Master Plan To Raise $50 Million And Relaunch As A Spotify Killer

LEAKED: MySpace's Master Plan To Raise $50 Million And Relaunch As A Spotify Killer | Kill The Record Industry | Scoop.it
The parent company of MySpace is trying to raise $50 million in order to re-launch MySpace as a direct competitor to Spotify and Pandora in 2013.

 

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Josh Granese's curator insight, November 4, 2014 11:59 AM

VERY interesting. MySpace is making a comeback! The new social media site looks absolutely stunning and it definitely can blow Spotify and Pandora out of the water if it Re-Launches correctly! This is interesting to say because everyone ditched MySpace for Facebook a few years ago!

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What I want from internet radio | Zoë Keating

What I want from internet radio | Zoë Keating | Kill The Record Industry | Scoop.it

Ever since SFMusicTech on Oct 9, I’ve been meaning to blog about the whole internet radio fairness act thingummybob. Almost every day someone has asked me: “What do you think about the proposed Internet Royalty Fairness Act?” and I haven’t had a proper answer. I’ve thought all kinds of things about it in the dead of the night, but those thoughts are often conflicting.

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Apple’s Online Radio Service to Challenge Pandora in 2013

Apple’s Online Radio Service to Challenge Pandora in 2013 | Kill The Record Industry | Scoop.it
Apple Inc. has intensified talks with major music labels to start an advertising supported streaming-radio competitor to Pandora Media Inc. by early next year, according to people with knowledge of the negotiations.
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