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Carl Jung on Astrology and the Birth of Christ

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 Image: The Great Conjunction of 7 B.C. at the time of the Magi.

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 I have dwelt at some length on the dualistic aspects of the Christ-figure because, through the fish symbolism, Christ was assimilated into a world of ideas that seems far removed from the gospels a world of pagan origin, saturated with astrological beliefs to an extent that we can scarcely imagine today.

 Christ was born at the beginning of the aeon of the Fishes. It is by no means ruled out that there were educated Christians who knew of the coniunctio maxima of Jupiter and Saturn in Pisces in the year 7 B.C., just as, according to the gospel reports, there were Chaldaeans who actually found Christ's birthplace. The Fishes, however, are a double sign.

 At midnight on Christmas Eve, when (according to the old time-reckoning) the sun enters Capricorn, Virgo is standing on the eastern horizon, and is soon followed by the Serpent held by Ophiuchus, the "Serpent-bearer." This astrological coincidence seems to me worth mentioning, as also the view that the two fishes are mother and son.

 The latter idea has a quite special significance because this relationship suggests that the two fishes were originally one. In fact, Babylonian and Indian astrology know of only one fish.

 Later, this mother evidently gave birth to a son, who was a fish like her. The same thing happened to the Phoenician Derceto-Atargatis, who, half fish herself, had a son called Ichthys.

 It is just possible that "the sign of the prophet Jonah" goes back to an older tradition about an heroic night sea journey and conquest of death, where the hero is swallowed by a fish ("whale-dragon") and is then reborn.

 The redemptory name Joshua (Yehoshua, Yeshua, Gr. lesous) is connected with the fish: Joshua is the son of Nun, and Nun means 'fish.'

 The Joshua ben Nun of the Khidr legend had dealings with a fish that was meant to be eaten but was revived by a drop of water from the fountain of life. ~Carl Jung, Aion, The Historical Significance of the Fish, Paragraphs 172-173.

 Image: The Great Conjunction of 7 B.C. at the time of the Magi.

[Carl Jung on Astrology and the Birth of Christ]

 I have dwelt at some length on the dualistic aspects of the Christ-figure because, through the fish symbolism, Christ was assimilated into a world of ideas that seems far removed from the gospels a world of pagan origin, saturated with astrological beliefs to an extent that we can scarcely imagine today.

 Christ was born at the beginning of the aeon of the Fishes. It is by no means ruled out that there were educated Christians who knew of the coniunctio maxima of Jupiter and Saturn in Pisces in the year 7 B.C., just as, according to the gospel reports, there were Chaldaeans who actually found Christ's birthplace. The Fishes, however, are a double sign.

 At midnight on Christmas Eve, when (according to the old time-reckoning) the sun enters Capricorn, Virgo is standing on the eastern horizon, and is soon followed by the Serpent held by Ophiuchus, the "Serpent-bearer." This astrological coincidence seems to me worth mentioning, as also the view that the two fishes are mother and son.

 The latter idea has a quite special significance because this relationship suggests that the two fishes were originally one. In fact, Babylonian and Indian astrology know of only one fish.

 Later, this mother evidently gave birth to a son, who was a fish like her. The same thing happened to the Phoenician Derceto-Atargatis, who, half fish herself, had a son called Ichthys.

 It is just possible that "the sign of the prophet Jonah" goes back to an older tradition about an heroic night sea journey and conquest of death, where the hero is swallowed by a fish ("whale-dragon") and is then reborn.

 The redemptory name Joshua (Yehoshua, Yeshua, Gr. lesous) is connected with the fish: Joshua is the son of Nun, and Nun means 'fish.'

 The Joshua ben Nun of the Khidr legend had dealings with a fish that was meant to be eaten but was revived by a drop of water from the fountain of life. ~Carl Jung, Aion, The Historical Significance of the Fish, Paragraphs 172-173.

 Image: The Great Conjunction of 7 B.C. at the time of the Magi.

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Carl Jung Depth Psychology: Puer aeternus. Latin for "eternal child," used in mythology to designate a child-god who is forever young

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Ellen Diane's curator insight, February 5, 2014 8:45 AM

some of us have a strong inner child:))))) I love it

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Puer Aeternus - Peter Pan - fantasy and the land of shadows

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Synchronicity: An Acausal Connecting Principle. (From Vol. 8. of the Collected Works of C. G. Jung) (Jung Extracts)

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Synchronicity: An Acausal Connecting Principle. (From Vol. 8. of the Collected Works of C. G. Jung) (Jung Extracts) Offer Price $9.13 ISBN:0691150508 Authors C. G.

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Carl Jung Depth Psychology: Jung and Teilhard de Chardin

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"Teilhard de Chardin and Carl Jung never met. Dr. Jung did finish reading The Phenomenon of Man less than a month before his death. The book had both a great and visible impact upon Dr. Jung according to Michael Serrano. It must have been satisfying for Dr. Jung to see Teilhard de Chardin from the perspective of a paleontologist and Jesuit Priest reach the same empirical conclusions about the evolution of consciousness that Dr. Jung found in his empirical research in Depth Psychology. It is a peculiar oddity that both Teilhard de Chardin and Dr. Jung stressed the empirical nature of their work yet often find their books categorized under "Philosophy" and "New Age." This in itself justifies the importance of this great book as the recognition of consciousness and the reality of the inner world of the soul is far from recognized even at the dawn of the 21st century" ~Lewis Lafontaine Carl Jung was reading Teilhard de Chardin during the last few days of his life. According to Miguel Serrano, when he visited Jung on May 10, 1961, "On the small table beside the chair where Jung was sitting, was a book called The Human Phenomenon by Teilhard de Chardin. I asked Jung whether he had read it. 'It is a great book,' he said. His face was pale, but seemed strangely illuminated by an inner light." (Miguel Serrano, C.G. Jung and Hermann Hesse: A Record of Two Friendships [New York: Schocken Books, 1968] pp. 100-101) Jung died on June 6, 1961.

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Poem by Pierre Teilhard de Chardin

"When the signs of age begin to mark my body

(and still more when they touch my mind);

when the ill that is to diminish me or carry me off

strikes from without or is born within me;

when the painful moment comes

in which I suddenly awaken

to the fact that I am ill or growing old;

and above all at that last moment

when I feel I am losing hold of myself

and am absolutely passive within the hands

of the great unknown forces that have formed me;

in all those dark moments, O God,

grant that I may understand that it is you

(provided only my faith is strong enough)

who are painfully parting the fibers of my being 

in order to penetrate to the very marrow

of my substance and bear me away within yourself."

 

Pierre Teilhard de Chardin (1880-1955)  

from the book The jesuit Guide to (almost) Everything by James Martin

 
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Carl Jung on the Androgyny of Christ.

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Carl Jung on his "Anima."

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Aladin Fazel's curator insight, March 13, 3:14 PM

Such initiations were often connected with the peril of death and so served to express the archetypal idea of death and rebirth.

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Carl Jung Depth Psychology: Carl Jung, at 85 yrs.,reflecting on the aging process

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It is at all events the gradual breaking down of the bodily machine, with which foolishness identifies as ourselves.

It is indeed a major effort– the magnum opus in fact– to escape in time from the narrowness of its embrace and to liberate our mind to the vision of the immensity of the world, of which we form an infinitesimal part.

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The age of the body is something we often swindle ourselves about, but this swindle does not help the psyche. ~Carl Jung, Modern Psychology, Page 213.

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Dreaming with Open Eyes: On Jung's "Active Imagination"

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Carl Jung believed that active imagination is a channel for messages from the unconscious.

 

In December 1913, Jung first experienced what he was later to call active imagination. However, he did not talk about these experiences until twelve years later, when, in May and June 1925, he “spoke for the first time of his inner development” at two sessions of a series of weekly seminars he was giving in Zurich. The contents of these lectures were not published until 1989,  but a partial account of these experiences was given in 1962 by Aniela Jaffé in Jung’s Memories, Dreams, Reflections, which she largely wrote. This account is the foundation myth, the charter, for active imagination.

 

In 1913, according to this account, Jung, profoundly distressed at his break with Freud, began to experiment with different ways to enter into his own imaginings. As James Hillman describes it, “When there was nothing else to hold to, Jung turned to the personified images of interior vision. He entered into an interior drama, took himself into an imaginative fiction and then, perhaps, began his healing — even if it has been called his breakdown.

 

In this imaginal world, Jung began to confront and question the figures who appeared to him; and, to Jung’s surprise, those imaginal persons replied to him in turn. “Near the steep slope of a rock,” Jung says, “I caught sight of two figures, an old man with a white beard and a beautiful young girl. I summoned up my courage and approached them as though they were real people, and listened attentively to what they told me... (Click title for more)


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Erel Shalit's curator insight, January 30, 2:15 AM

For an example of Active Imagination following a dream, see Introductory Chapter in The Dream and its Amplification

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Jung, Active Imagination and The Red Book

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Carl Jung Depth Psychology: Carl Jung “…there is a whole lot of primitivity in us to be made good.”

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Permit me a few remarks: to the extent that I regard the psychoanalytic and the psychosynthetic method as an instrument for self-improvement, your comparison with the method of yoga seems to me extremely plausible.

But I feel it necessary to emphasize that this is merely an analogy, because nowadays far too many Europeans are inclined to accept Oriental ideas and methods uncritically and to translate them into the mental language of the Occident.

In my view it is detrimental both to ourselves and to those ideas.

The products of the Oriental mind are based on its own peculiar history, which is radically different from ours.

Those peoples have gone through an uninterrupted development from the primitive state of natural poly-demonism to polytheism at its most splendid, and beyond that to a religion of ideas within which the originally magical practices could evolve into a method of self-improvement.

These antecedents do not apply to us.

The Germanic tribes, when they collided only the day before yesterday with Roman Christianity, were still in the initial state of a poly-demonism with polytheistic buds.

There was as yet no proper priesthood and no proper ritual.

Like Wotan's oaks, the gods were felled and a wholly incongruous Christianity, born of monotheism.

The Germanic man is still suffering from this mutilation.

l have good reasons for thinking that every step beyond the existing situation has to begin down there among the truncated nature-demons.

In other words, there is a whole lot of primitivity in us to be made good.

It therefore seems to be a grave error if we graft yet another foreign growth onto our already mutilated condition.

It would only make the original injury worse.

This craving for things foreign and faraway is a morbid sign.

Also, we cannot possibly get beyond out present level of culture unless we receive a powerful impetus from our primitive roots.

But we shall receive it only if we go back behind our cultural level, thus giving the suppressed primitive man in ourselves a chance to develop.

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Also, we cannot possibly get beyond out present level of culture unless we receive a powerful impetus from our primitive roots.

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Last Encounter with Carl Jung and the Archetype of the Apocalypse | • tactical gain • Zine

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  Last Encounter with Carl Jung   Miguel Serrano (Translated by Alex Kurtagic)   Editor's Note: This is a translation of the article by Serrano published by the Chilean newspaper El Mercurio on 16 July 1961, following Carl Jung's death,…
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Jung, and Apocalypse as we enter a new Age of Awakening

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Jung, Individuation, and Shamanism

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According to historian and philosopher Mircea Eliade, shamanism has been around for millennia, practically as long as humans have existed. In recent decades, the archetype of shamanism has experienced a rebirth. With growing consciousness, more and more individuals are recognizing spontaneously and consistently what our indigenous ancestors knew: that there is a divine intelligence at work in the universe, a life force of love andlight, of which, by nature and birthright, we are an integral part. 
Anne Baring (2007), psychologist and author, notes that C.G. Jung himself commented on the capacity of humans to respond to this greater force, saying:
The archetypal image of the wise man, the saviour or redeemer, lies buried and dormant in man's unconscious since the dawn of culture; it is awakened whenever the times are out of joint and a human society is committed to a serious error...These primordial images are … called into being by the waywardness of the general outlook. When conscious life is characterised by one-sidedness and by a false attitude, they are activated…"instinctively" … in the dreams of individuals and the visions of artists and seers... (Click title for more)


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Carl Jung Depth Psychology: Carl Jung on the need for Mythic Statements.

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Carl Jung Depth Psychology: Carl Jung on the celebration of the Mass and Holy Communion.

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Carl Jung and Christ as a “Mediator” in Active Imagination.

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Tasha Tollman review - Jung on Active Imagination: key readings selected by Joan Chodorow

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A Tasha Tollman reviews "Jung on Active Imagination" by Joan Chodorow.

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Carl Jung Depth Psychology: Carl Jung: In a way the animal is more pious than man, because it fulfills the divine will more completely...

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Carl Jung Depth Psychology: Carl Jung, at 85 yrs.,reflecting on the aging process

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It is at all events the gradual breaking down of the bodily machine, with which foolishness identifies as ourselves.

It is indeed a major effort– the magnum opus in fact– to escape in time from the narrowness of its embrace and to liberate our mind to the vision of the immensity of the world, of which we form an infinitesimal part.


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The age of the body is something we often swindle ourselves about, but this swindle does not help the psyche. ~Carl Jung, Modern Psychology, Page 213.

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Seminal papers: "Emotions and Object Relations" by John Weir Perry - e-jungian.com

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The paper by John Weir Perry about the psychology of emotions in the context of the theory of psychic complexes.
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Carl Jung Depth Psychology: Carl Jung on "The Art of Life."

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The Art of Life and Carl Jung:

This interview by an English journalist living in Switzerland, Gordon Young, was published in the Sunday Times (London), July 17, 1960, in anticipation of Jung's 85th birthday (July 26), and in abridged form in the American Weekly (New York), February 19, 1961. A fuller version appears in the epilogue of Gordon Young's Doctors Without Drugs (London, 1962), from which minor changes and several passages not included in the newspaper versions are incorporated here.

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 It is when you approach the ominous region round the fortieth year that you look back upon the past which has accumulated behind you and the silent questions approach you, stealthily or openly: Where am I standing today? Have my dreams come true? Have I fulfilled my expectations of a happy and successful life as I imagined them twenty years ago? Have I been strong, consistent, active, intelligent, reliable, and enduring enough to seize my opportunities or to make the right choice at the crossroads and produce the proper answer to the problem which fate or fortune put before me? And then the final question comes: What is the chance that I shall fail again in fulfilling that which I obviously have been unable to accomplish in the first forty years?

And then?

Then, with the beginning of your life's second part, inexorably a change imposes itself, subtly at first but with ever-increasing weight. Whatever you have acquired hitherto is no longer the same as you regarded it when it still lay before you—it has lost something of its charm, its splendor and its attractiveness. What was once an adventurous effort has become routine. Even flowers wilt, and it is hard to discover something perennial which will endure. Looking back slowly becomes a habit, no matter how much you detest and try to suppress it. Like the wife of Orpheus emerging from the underworld, who could not resist casting the forbidden look behind her, and consequently had to return from whence she came.

This sort of thing is what you might call the "way of life a revers," so characteristic of many people and which at the beginning is adopted quite unawares: to continue in one's accustomed style, if possible more and better—to improve on the past, as if your disposition, which accounts for all your past failures, would be different in the future. But without your being aware of it your energy is no longer attracted to its former objectives in the way it was before: enthusiasm has become routine and zeal a habit. The backwards look will not fail to show you sides and aspects of yourself long forgotten and other ways of life you have missed or avoided before. The more your actual life becomes routine and habit, the less it will be satisfactory.

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Jung on the artistry of living towards Wholeness in the second half of life.

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Carl Jung on Active Imagination West and East

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Carl Jung: “Each of our actions and reactions is influenced by complicated psychic factors.”

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dorothy holder's curator insight, February 4, 9:11 PM

Carl Yung can be a hard read with the tendency to try and say many words without meaning while hiding a few gems within, i always liken reading him to a little treasure hunt

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Carl Jung on the Biological and Psychological Transformation of Instinct.

To Father Victor White

My dear Father White, 13 February 1946

My answer to your kind letter comes very late indeed: I have a bad conscience.

There are certain...

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James Hillman/ New Kabbalah Website

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Death as Healer, by Paulette C Turcotte

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THE DEPTH OF THE SOUL: JAMES HILLMAN’S VISION OF PSYCHOLOGY

Sanford L. Drob

For the past quarter century James Hillman has been creating a new vision of psychology, one in which psychology becomes a "supreme discipline" concerned not only with the psyche of humanity but the "soul" which is at the heart of the world. Vilified by some, he has been called brilliant, explosive and poetic by others. His ideas, through their popularization in the writings of the best selling author, Thomas Moore (1992, 1994), have reached millions, yet he is unheard of by many professional psychologists. While some psychologists have applauded Hillman's call for a return of the soul to a central place in psychology (Elkins, 1995), others have been put off by the fact that Hillman's own writings are critical of the humanist tradition, highly provocative and occasionally abstruse.

Hillman has been consistently critical of what he regards to be the basic assumption of contemporary humanistic psychology, the unity and essential "health" of the self. He is also critical of the humanistic (and spiritual) focus upon self-actualization and spirituality, as opposed to an experience of the chaos, multiplicity, and disentegrative aspects of the soul and the world (Hillman, 1977, pp. 180-3; Hillman, 1979). Yet a close examination of Hillman's ideas reveals them to be of great interest to humanistic psychologists and his position is far closer to humanistic/ spiritual psychology than he himself cares to acknowledge.

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Carl Jung on How Symbols Arise in Dreams to Explain the Unconscious

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"Just as conscious contents can vanish into the unconscious, new contents, which have never yet been conscious, can arise from it," wrote Carl Gustav Jung, pointing to the critical importance of translating the symbols which show up in our lives through dreams, art, mythology, film, literature and dozens of other sources.

 

In Man and His Symbols, Jung spoke eloquently about the way symbols communicate the contents of the unconscious to us, saying...

 

"Because there are innumerable things beyond the range of human understanding, we constantly use symbolic terms to represent concepts that we cannot define or fully comprehend. This is one reason why all religions employ symbolic language or images . But this conscious use of symbols is only one aspect of a psychological fact of great importance: Man also produces symbols unconsciously and spontaneously, in the form of dreams.... (Click title for more)


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Viviana Puebla's curator insight, October 16, 2014 9:14 PM

Is  important to pay attention to symbolic language of the dreams, even if it displeases us like the nightmares we may have from time to time. They can teach us ways to understand better how we came to be and why we  choose to walk like this in the path of conscious life.

 

In the middle of the night ,covered by the protection of the dream world,  we tend to re-live those feeling who never acquire the proper wording so they never came to be in the light of the concious world.

 

Sometimes because they were dismissed , others, because we forget about what we don´t like  to disturb us  in the speedways of our existence.

But they are not forgotten by our inner self so they must acquire a voice of their own to be Heard by us in our life.

 

 

The painful feelings of loss and betrayal  re-lived in our dreams can affect our moods and preconceptions of our daily conscious life.

 

And by these the veils of the uncertainty of what is was and what is real now.

We start to re-enact those feelings searching for the clues of how they came to be unespected as we think they are, unwanted as they start to overthrow our world of day light : We become suspicious, sadder and angrier lossing ourselves in the mistranslations of the deeper meaning of this sensations. Affecting our relationships and our ability to function in life

 

Paying attention to the languaging of our dreams, tending the dreamworld means to start to understand this feelings and sensations in the ligth of the inner reaches of our unconcious , turning inwards to the symbolic, not outwards searching  scaping goats of our past experiencies.

 

Keeping us from the shadows of others but taking the toll of a live half lived. Until we decide to look and face this uncertainties as ours and because of that , looking for the way to make the sound of this symbolic language our way to converse and reach out the deeper meaning of our existence

 

Nightmares can effectively gallop wildly,  trembling the path of our existence, or if we learn to listen with attention and care to their symbolic languaging,  become our best friends and wise counsellors in the dawn of  our waking life

 

Dreams and symbols became the treasure map to our inner Gold.

Working towards a soul full life is an unexpected  and extraordinary journey. 

 

In order to Achieve complete fulfillment in life we must Become whole  again , to be able to recapture the discarded parts of ourselves entails the wisdom of hearing  the sounds and whispers of the language of  the life of the symbols in dreams  that give us the ability to Voice our Soul.

 

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Carl Jung Depth Psychology: Carl Jung and Positive Aspects of the Mother Complex.

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