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Today's letters on e-cigarettes: No smoke without fire

Today's letters on e-cigarettes: No smoke without fire | ECigarettes | Scoop.it
National Post letter writers answer the question: "Should e-cigarettes be subject to the same restrictions as tobacco cigarettes?"
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I'm very curious to see where things go with noise over regulation and calls for outright (or more leaning that way) banning of the devices in several provinces.

 

Canada E-Cig law has been murky to say the least - from a technical legal standpoint anyway. When it has come to shipping across border there are loads of times a stupidly tiny amount (5-pack of kr8 cartos once i experienced this with) where they return to sender and send the recipient copies of paperwork, expressing how it was refused entry due to controlled substance (yep that would be nicotine).

 

Hmmmm, I wonder if the dickhead PM Stephen Harper is buddies with big pharma? Funny that they were snubbed out before arriving so no public discussion or awareness even really developed until recently. Now however there are vape shops all over the place (and a ton of online vendors, ejuice boutiques etc.) all of which is technically - as it almost always DOES yes have that evil horror of horrors that is nicotine in it. 

 

What makes it most interesting though is I tend to think that the way things are at present in Canada - what amounts to a fairly 'out in the open' (growing increasingly fast) grey-market. I has a sense it is a bit like things would be in the USA should the FDA eventually say "out with the vapes!" - the scenario in Canada I would argue practically guarantees it would just keep on operating - perhaps with nicotine 'under the counter' ...

 

To many people not only rely on these things to stay off smoking but - to put it bluntly - too many people LOVE vaping for them to 'go away' even if they are  whatever happen - I expect over 80% of current users would simply get whatever they need from online sources more exclusively at worst - but I really don't see any attempt to regulate out of existence or similar having much effect period... people who have vaped for any length of time I think would just feel how clearly unreasonable (bordering on reprehensible) such a rule - a law - would feel (and be).

 

The E-Cig 'cat' is out of (pandoras) box 'bag' - for way too long now to think it can be swept under the rug. No, I expect things to keep going well for the majority of the industry (in both Canadian and US sites) . Head over to http://www.cigarettesbrands.com/ to learn more on the topic and to keep up to date, http://www.cigarettesbrands.com/ecig-faq/vaping-vs-smoking-comparison/

 

Long live VAPING and the inevitable evolution and growing scope of the many sub-groups and segmented types of devices, users, preferences and much else... i truly doubt in 5 years the main discussion will be E-Cigs vs Vaping. Having become an original activity, hobby, culture and much besides - with ultimately very very little in common with cigarettes.

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V2 Electronic Cigarettes Coupon Code Update June 3-6, 2014

V2 Electronic Cigarettes Coupon Code Update June 3-6, 2014 | ECigarettes | Scoop.it
Get valid coupons for V2 electronic cigarettes, we have latest codes (UPDATED June 3, 2014 and Guaranteed Top Discount to June 6, 2014).
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Now More Than Ever Is A Great Moment To Grab Top V2Cigs Coupon Codes from the site - using EVAPE15 at http://ecig.gy/v2-deal/ can combine with current V2 Promos to save on the utterly awesome V2 Cigs EX Kit Upgrades (everything V2 EX is downright phenomenal). Seriously, worth the hype.

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Jim Oliver - Google+ - This Is Super Serious Stuff For All #ECIG Users and #Vapers…

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This Is Super Serious Stuff For All #ECIG Users and #Vapers To Recognize and Understand the situation going on here - #SMOKELESS http://smokeless.net/ has…
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The e-cig advocates take a view

Greg Conley is the President of the American Vaping Association (AVA). He recently released a statement on the deeming that the FDA supplied:

“We are greatly concerned that the Food & Drug Administration’s proposal to regulate electronic cigarette products as ‘tobacco products’ will hand the electronic cigarette market over to Big Tobacco and potentially ban the sale of products used today by tens or hundreds of thousands of ex-smokers. This proposed regulation would enact regulatory barriers that will be insurmountable for many small and medium sized electronic cigarette companies. While we support banning the sale of electronic cigarettes to minors, we also believe that the FDA’s current regulatory scheme is entirely inappropriate for these innovative, technology-driven products.”

Source: AVA website http://vaping.info/deeming-regulations-statement

 

snippets from smokeless.net article: http://smokeless.net/the-end-of-vaping/

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We are looking at a double-edged sword here – even if some among us did see it coming

Fair enough, we were all tired of the FDA taking their time, and the incredible amount of bad press the e-cig industry received over the last two years, but it seemed like a Gift from the Gods to finally receive some proper attention from them. And what’s more, initial reactions – including those expressed right here on Smokeless.net – were mostly those of relief.

How naive to think things could be what they seem – (please pardon the cynicism) – heck there wasn’t mention of flavors, e-liquid or nicotine strengths.No axing of online sales (not officially at any rate) and as the responsible majority hoped to see the issue of age-restriction is tackled head on.

Brands and Vapers alike don’t want children to be exposed to e-cigarettes, most of whom restricted under-age sales already through their own initiative. The FDA doesn’t want children exposed to the stuff, and no one can argue with that. So that elephant has been kicked out of the room, sadly it seems to serve more a distracting role than simply a positive one.

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Vaping Is Not Smoking – E-Cigarettes Aren’t Cigarettes

All of this diversity – the result of ongoing innovation - in part marks just how true the above statement is. It is an equally essential ingredient of the passionate and richly nuanced ‘vaping’ culture and growing e-cig community.

This perhaps unexpected (and by some very unwelcome) truth – that in more ways than they are similar, e-cigs and traditional cigarettes are vastly different from one another – gets at the crux of the issue on many levels, even if not offering a clear solution.

In most ways the FDA (and certainly Tobacco companies) are treating e-Cigs as if they were tobacco cigarettes. It is in their best interest to continue framing them as if they were essentially an ‘alternative cigarette’ – but a cigarette just like those we’ve all come to know (and hate).

The E-Cig Has Evolved Into A Square Peg & Won’t Succeed Any Longer At Fitting Into That Round Hole – But That Won’t Stop The Powers That Be From Trying


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E-Cigarette Sales in the UK Have More Than Tripled Over the Last ...

E-Cigarette Sales in the UK Have More Than Tripled Over the Last ... | ECigarettes | Scoop.it
Recent research shows the e-cigarette market in the UK has more than tripled over the last year, while nicotine replacement therapy products and tobacco cigarette sales have slowed. ...
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good, they will keep selling more even if they are regulated (or even banned)...

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RJ Ross Best Electronic Cigarette Review - Best E-Cigarette Reviews

RJ Ross Best Electronic Cigarette Review - Best E-Cigarette Reviews | ECigarettes | Scoop.it
RJ Ross is the home of the best electronic cigarette reviews the world has ever seen. Get your best e-cigarette reviews here!
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dont miss our bud RJ and his new review site. Really solid reviews from a cool dude :)

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Shishaah's curator insight, March 5, 2014 7:42 AM

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Why Do V2 Cigs Continue To Dominate In Popularity and Ratings?

Why Do V2 Cigs Continue To Dominate In Popularity and Ratings? | ECigarettes | Scoop.it
V2 Cigs Review Is The Top Independent Site Devoted To Covering The V2 ECig Brand From Every Angle. Find out why V2 is the best selling ecig.
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A Quick Look At The New KICK ASS - 'V2 EX' Product Lineup (the best hands down MINI E Cigs / Cigalike on the market - with the highlight being the EX Cartomizer Tanks) - And the soon to launch V2 Cigs PRO Vaporizers - should make the answer to the question clear.

 

V2 Cigs is the only big brand who consistently innovates and sells the best products. That is a recipe for good good vaping happy ;-)

 

you can keep tabs on V2 and the related VMR ecig brands on the dedicated review site - http://v2cigsreview.com/

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Is Vaping Doomed After All? (with images) · smokeless

FDA Recently Announced Long Awaited 'regulation proposal' for E-Cigs. Many First Thought That E-Cig Users Dodged A Bullet, But Closer Inspection Reveals Nasty 'Crony Capitalism' Tricks That Indeed May Soon = "The End Of Vaping As We Know It"
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Los Angeles bans e-cigarettes in non-smoking areas

Los Angeles bans e-cigarettes in non-smoking areas | ECigarettes | Scoop.it
Los Angeles votes to ban the use of e-cigarettes in some public places. (The Los Angeles city council has voted to ban electronic cigarettes in some areas of the city. What do you think?...
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why why why - oh yeah, dumb people. I forgot how attached to a cause one becomes. Crusades are what people seem to do best... I hope we can as humans outgrow this nonsense. Not like it will stop Los Angeles from vaping, just will make it a royal pain in the butt for many users - not to mention a tad cooler for those teens everyone is so scared for (they will be bad anyway - i was one - i know).... I'm sorry folks you can't put the genie back in the bottle when it comes to ecigarettes though, its come too far and will keep growing like a force of nature IMHO... we vapers are a passionate lot, these things make our lives much better (yours too).

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Why e-cigarettes should be allowed in the office - Globe and Mail

Why e-cigarettes should be allowed in the office - Globe and Mail | ECigarettes | Scoop.it
Globe and Mail
Why e-cigarettes should be allowed in the office
Globe and Mail
Soon the few people left in civilized society who still smoke will be stubbing out their last gaspers and resolving to quit.
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Nice Amount Of Both Humor And Insight - surprisingly in my home team paper too, the Globe & Mail. For American's who dont know, and unless you follow these in detail why would you - though it should be of concern. That in Canada ecigs were banned before even a smidgeon of a public dialogue. I hear about 40% of American's know about ecigs now. I still get approached on the street (not that i admit to using such illicit devices in the borders of Canada!) but i still get asked what it is 9/10 times - and its the first people have ever heard of it. This year should introduce a lot more public dialogue if nothing else with major milestones coming up in 2013.

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Shishaah's curator insight, March 5, 2014 7:41 AM

Hi, thanks for sharing a great platform to share views about Electronic Cigarettes! As a lot of researchers have proved that E-cigarettes are the best alternative to Tobacco cigarettes. So, why don’t you switch to E-cig for better and healthy life!

 

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