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What I Would Teach

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The common problems in societies are conservatives and ideologues.  Not only do they lack the compassion and empathy needed to effectively govern a society and act within the larger world around them, but they also lack the sense and the willingness to explore problems with their beliefs and propositions.  This then means that they produce sub-optimal policy, which then leads to sub-optimal results within the given society that they're wielding influence in.

 

If I could have one wish with regards to politics and governance, it would be to perpetually and sustainably eliminate the influence, power, and control of conservatives and ideologues in a society.  I would teach people to recognize good governance and good governors/legislators/statespeople for their actions, not their words, and to draw causal links between certain behaviors, policies, and actions and the benefits that they yield for the public.  I would teach the public how the mechanics of societies work and what to expect from a governing body based on the public's expressed needs, desires, and interests.

 

At the very least, I would teach the people who would want to govern and administer the world how to act in their own self interests by adapting to changing conditions, new knowledge, and demands made by the public, rather than overriding these concerns and issues for some opinion that they may have about this, that, and the other thing.  It's fine to have hypotheses when we lack the awareness, know-how and knowledge.  Just ground them in reality and don't be too upset if they get proven to be wrong.

 

Honestly, how hard are those concepts?

 

Think about it.

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May all beings be happy.

 

And may I lead them into a position where they can better achieve that happiness.

 

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US to send military advisers to Iraq

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President Obama says the US is sending up to 300 "military advisers" to Iraq and may take "targeted military action" against Islamist insurgents.
Eli Levine's insight:

I would concur with this action and add air support in coordination with Iranian and Iraqi ground forces.  If only al-Malaki would step down as leader of Iraq to win back the Sunni population.  Above all things, I think, Iraq needs a unifying figure to lead it with sincere unifying actions to follow.  ISIS is a common threat to everybody in the region, even for the Saudis who fund them.

 

After all, what's to stop these demons from going after the opulent and often times hypocritical Saudi royal family after they're finished in Iraq and Syria?  What would stop a hero's welcome from becoming a bloodbath in Riyadh? 

 

Perhaps the US should quietly make that point to the Saudi King and his subjects?

 

I doubt we will.  Interpersonal relations does not seem like it is an actual strong point of US strategy.  All we know is guns versus bigger guns.  No strategy, no diplomacy, no politicking added into the mix.

 

Just some thoughts.

 

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Force: The Action of the Weak

You know how I know how to effectively fight an insurgent or revolutionary force?


Because I've studied the histories of countries and societies, seeking what worked and what hasn't worked at producing long term stability and positive relations within a given society.

Force only spoils the relationship and can only be skin deep in terms of its success rate. It only is a short term solution and it leaves the whole society angry and broken amongst itself and towards the faction or group within the society that is causing the initial conflict through their actual actions. The only way to definitively crush a rebellion is to make sure the rebel factions have no legitimacy and no friends or empathy from the rest of the society around them. You can only crush militarily an armed and isolated group who is perceived by the general public as causing the problems. Otherwise, the authorities will never have peace or rest, and exacerbate the situation until they are forcibly removed from power and position within their society or they genuinely and effectively correct the problem(s) that they're causing within the society. 


If you admit your mistakes, take action that effectively changes the situation, and genuinely comprehend, listen to, and respect the wishes and needs of the public, you will achieve something that no leader can ever achieve through force, even if it means your stepping down from power.  You only get power because people give it to you; you never receive it automatically or through a position or title.  Not really, never actually.

Such as it was that the peasants of Europe rose against the feudal landlords to establish their imperfect Republics and Democracies. Such as what happened to the Chinese Emperors when they ran afoul of their own people, or the hunter-gatherers of the world when confronted with hostile and hyper-aggressive individuals within their group.

Such was the Englishman's experience everywhere in the world. The put downs did not break the will of the people they conquered, and it did not stop them from gaining independence (by hook or by crook) and the whole of the empire from collapsing.

Such was it was in Ireland. Such is what it is everywhere. Such is how it will be in the future, no matter what you may do to make it actually be other.

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Eli Levine's insight:

If history, across societies and times, confirms this to be the case, then it could be a natural law of society and a natural law of governance.  We seem to think that there are no links between action and effect, that we can do anything when we and if we have power or more power than another person.  The obligations are the same, the consequences of your actions remain in place that you have to live with.

 

Therefore, it's technically in no one's interest to use force against another element or person in a society so long as they lack the legitimacy to do so.  Even then, if illegitimate people use legitimate force against legitimate people, they tend to lose that power and authority through their own illegitimate actions, behaviors, and perceptions.

 

Thus, governing is a science and an art, where there are natural laws and better and worse options on the objective, empirical level.  The art is in the communication with and handling of the public and people in the public, the science and technicalities are in the actual actions that are taken.  The best politicians are like family doctors, who work regularly with the people and patients who fall under their care.  The best policy makers and advisers are like surgeons who do technical work and less public relations.

 

You cannot force a people or a person to follow a certain procedure or regimen in medicine without causing severe harm and trauma for that group of people or individual.  The same applies in politics, governing, and international relations.

 

A shame more people don't think about things like this.

 

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Economic vs Business Management

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Managing an economy is different from managing a business, just as managing your individual self is different than managing the whole of human society and ecosystem that you're of, in, and around.  There is such a thing as excess for the individual, just as there is such a thing as excess for the business within the economy. 



A business is, after all, just one actor composed of actors within the context of the whole economy.  The maximum well being for the business, separated from the economy and society, is not the same as the maximum well being of the economy itself, especially when the economy is made relative to the average person living in society.  This is how we see high company profits (good business health) while the economies themselves are lagging behind in growth and the societies are generally lacking in well being and health.  The economy is about people who are living in the society; a business is just concerned with their specific task(s) and making as much money as possible from those tasks.  It is the failure of the business class to recognize this distinction that is, ultimately, going to cause the implosion of their world and everything that they value.

 

Since businesses are inclined to, eventually, peel away from going for the well being of the public for the sake of their own well being, it takes a separate institution to make sure that it all works cohesively together for the general public as opposed to just the business entities.  The society can either form into a mob whenever business interests reneg and drag their feet at fulfilling the social contract, or it can form a legitimate authority in a government whose members recognize their own well being as being intimately linked to people and their well being who can carry out and enforce these principles separately and independently from the business interests.  The businesses and business class will kill themselves off if they don't evolve into entities and individuals who will, at the very least, accept the necessary constraints from government for the sake of society.  It is for their sake that profit sharing, environmental regulations, health and safety laws and financial oversight is put into place, such that they do not kill or harm the rest of the social and ecological world in which THEY ARE APART OF.

 

If the business interests wish to have the whole of the world, and to kill it off in order to have their little piece of it, I say "let them have it all", just as the woman on trial in front of Solomon did for her baby.  I love this society.  I love this planet,  I love this universe, in spite of everything that it dishes out to me and to beings around me.  I know it will live on in whole, though much more worse off, under the reign of businesspeople, conservatives, and ideologues.  I leave it to the universe to judge what is the best course of action.  I have had no reason to believe in miracles that actually last.  Maybe one day the universe will prove me wrong.

 

Think about it.

 

Eli Levine's insight:

This is the key difference between how a government and its members ought to think about business and how a business person will think about his/her business.

 

One just eats.  The other has to maintain balance.

 

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The Social Contract

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A government's business is based on the relationship that its members have with the general public in society and amongst the societies of the world.  It is, if the government is working well, seen as a long term relationship that needs to be maintained positively.  Failure to live up effectively to their end of the perpetually present social bargain is a sure way to lose legitimacy, authority, abilities to act, and ability to even remain present in the society in which it is attempting to operate and survive in.

 

Even if the public doesn't vote, the anger and hostile sentiments against the government and its members remain present.  In fact, it is safer for the government and its cohorts to be thrown out through elections than to risk being thrown out by an angry mob.

 

Unfortunately, the fools who presently are sitting in power don't, won't, or can't seem to get that they've actually been playing with a fire that is so large that it can consume the world.  They seem to have no perspective on history, no perspective on their current predicament, and no ability to come up with effective methods of getting out of said predicament, other than to bully, lie, cheat, and continue to exhibit the same negative behaviors and perspectives that got them into the mess in the first place.  It's as if their brains have etched themselves into a habit loop that is extremely difficult to break, due to their original false perceptions and beliefs about how power works and what is needed to actually maintain power sustainably, reliably, and in actuality relative to the sentiments and beliefs of the general public.  It is not the brute who wins over the hearts of the public, even if they may awe at him/her, nor is it the cheater who sneaks in.  It is a benevolent, effective, sincere, and genuine leader who works for the sake of the other that receives the most amount of good will from the rest of the populace they are living with.

 

Therefore, a government, and its members' proper relationship and perspective to a given society is as a coequal partner who loves the other altruistically.  Without this love, a government and its members will not effectively govern a society well for their own sakes, let alone, for the society's sake.  They will miss opportunities that the society could do to act on their own of their own initiative.  They will impose their order artificially on the society that is in question and produce sub-optimal results for the general public, either by accident at best, or by malevolent negligence at worst.  Without this basic love of society, let alone, a basic love of self that will cue in people's instincts as to whether or not to change courses, a government will not last long, no matter how well designed the institutions may have been on paper.  It all comes down to the people whom you stock the institution with that determines whether or not it's going to be a functional, effective, and self-sustaining institution.  All comes down to the individual and collective contents of the brain, and nothing else, really.

 

Think about it.

Eli Levine's insight:

A society beyond a small group of humans does not function well without a government.  A society without that kind of organization does not usually stand much of a chance out in the wild where division of labor and a host of other general living problems becomes difficult due to the small numbers of the group. 

 

Libertarians have a great ideal for small scale human organization.  However, as soon as you get above a small hunter-gatherer band, the idea collapses.  After all, the extent hunter-gatherer bands of this world are actually hyper-aggressive towards those who violate group dynamics.  No liberty there, really, in spite of the lack of central government, and no application on the larger scale that our societies have evolved to for their own sakes.

 

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Quantum biology: Algae evolved to switch quantum coherence on and off

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A UNSW Australia-led team of researchers has discovered how algae that survive in very low levels of light are able to switch on and off a weird quantum phenomenon that occurs during photosynthesis.
Eli Levine's insight:

The article doesn't quite explain how or why this is important or significant.

 

However, it does give more evidence to the hypothesis that all life is, oddly enough, interacting on the quantum level and that there is no real distinction or separation of one organism or object from another.

 

Imagine how quantum physics effects our own brains and sense organs; how we navigate and make sense of the world that is, apparently, around us.  Imagine what that then does to the universe itself that is around us and that also is us.

 

Most definitely, go deeper on this one.  This "quantum biology" may help unravel the function and processes of life, the universe, and everything.

 

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Life Under ISIS: Iraqis Return to Mosul, Seeing Militants As Safer Bet - NBC News

Life Under ISIS: Iraqis Return to Mosul, Seeing Militants As Safer Bet - NBC News | It Comes Undone-Think About It | Scoop.it
ERBIL, Iraq — Five days after fleeing Mosul in northern Iraq, Ahmed says he's now more nervous than ever.But it's not the Al Qaeda-inspired extremists who to...
Eli Levine's insight:

The BBC may spin stories about how ISIS is executing Iraqi security force members captured in battle.  This serves to only drum up the rage and resentment against ISIS in the West.

 

But there's more to the story, and I sincerely wish that the leaders of our world are paying attention to the actual story that's unfolding in the region and not swallowing their own dog food.

 

This is how bad Nouri al-Malaki has been governing Iraq: the people of Mosul are more willing to accept a group that al-Qaeda distanced themselves from rather than help al-Malaki and his excessively ethnically biased Shi'a government.  These are not stupid people we are currently fighting against, but people who seem to be well versed and well aware of how to appeal to people in the short run, at the very least, in order to get what they want from them: legitimacy, recognition, and authority to govern.  Whether or not ISIS will be a desirable long term solution to the Sunnis' plight in Iraq, I honestly don't know.  But this makes the operation sooo much more delicate on our end, because any strike against ISIS will be met with strikes from the general public, especially if we're seen as acting on behalf of al-Malaki's "government".  Our best bet, I think, would be to find Moqtada al-Sadr and try to convince him, with the help of the Iranians, to step in to take over from al-Malaki and run a unity government for Iraq (which may or may not include a Kurdish region).  The Sunni do not have the land or the population to make a functional state.  It would be better to help the two sides heal the damage that was done to their relations by the American invasion of 2003 thanks to our own conservatives on both sides of the aisle.  I think al-Sadr, in spite of his anti-American pedigree, would be the ideal candidate to take over from al-Malaki, thanks to his own legitimacy amongst the communities of Iraq and his organic leadership pedigree in Iraq itself.

 

Sadr and al-Sadr fought them.  While I think al-Sadr would be mature and pragmatic enough to listen to what we would have to offer, I very much doubt that the American leadership or the American populace would be so willing to do what will most likely be best for Iraq and for our relations with the people of the region and the Islamic community as a whole.

 

Idiot conservative monkey brains.

 

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The direction of evolution: The rise of cooperative organization

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Two great trends are evident in the evolution of life on Earth: towards increasing diversification and towards increasing integration. Diversification has spread living processes across the planet, progressively increasing the range of environments and free energy sources exploited by life. Integration has proceeded through a stepwise process in which living entities at one level are integrated into cooperative groups that become larger-scale entities at the next level, and so on, producing cooperative organizations of increasing scale (for example, cooperative groups of simple cells gave rise to the more complex eukaryote cells, groups of these gave rise to multi-cellular organisms, and cooperative groups of these organisms produced animal societies). The trend towards increasing integration has continued during human evolution with the progressive increase in the scale of human groups and societies. The trends towards increasing diversification and integration are both driven by selection. An understanding of the trajectory and causal drivers of the trends suggests that they are likely to culminate in the emergence of a global entity. This entity would emerge from the integration of the living processes, matter, energy and technology of the planet into a global cooperative organization. Such an integration of the results of previous diversifications would enable the global entity to exploit the widest possible range of resources across the varied circumstances of the planet. This paper demonstrates that it's case for directionality meets the tests and criticisms that have proven fatal to previous claims for directionality in evolution.

 

The direction of evolution: The rise of cooperative organization
John E. Stewart

Biosystems
Available online 1 June 2014

http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.biosystems.2014.05.006


Via Complexity Digest, NESS
Eli Levine's insight:

Cooperation is the best way to improve, sustain, maintain, and repair.  Competition is what drives everyone and everything towards something different, be it competition for resources or competition against the elements around us.

 

I don't get what the point of competition amongst the species is for.  Part of cooperation, after all, is knowing what works, learning about what could work better or doesn't work, and then letting the negative or sub-optimal slip back beneath the waves of ignorance, such that the new ways can rise to prominence.

 

Change is the only constant in this universe of universes.

 

Yet cooperation, I think, yields the higher and stronger of the universal structures that are out there, even if it means that there are still losers and winners.  The only difference is the level of consent and consensus that's reached within the social, ecological, economical, and/or political landscape.  One way works towards what is best.  The other way simply yields what is best at competing, which is not the same as being the actual best solution to a given problem or condition.

 

Think about it.

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Luciano Lampi's curator insight, June 16, 2014 9:51 AM

is this the end of stove pipes?

Ra's curator insight, June 22, 2014 6:02 AM

Have I been reading too much science fiction?

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Calculated Progress

Scientific progress, without consideration into potential long term and short term consequences of that progress and research, is in no one's own best interest. The species wouldn't have survived, individually and collectively if we had just thrown ourselves off ridges without checking how high the ridge was and/or what was below. We can't predict everything and, many a time, even our best predictions are going to be wrong. That being said, I would strongly advise the scientific community to proceed with extreme caution when developing intelligent machines, automation for higher level and lower level jobs, and computer implants for humans.


I personally don't have moral problems with advancing the species. I have practical problems that I don't see the present scientific community working to address. What happens to an economy when all the human workers are out of a job with no prospect of getting them back? What happens to a society when that happens, physically and psychologically? What would we do if we had no work to do? What would happen to us if we became actually dependent upon machines and the machines all broke or were destroyed?

 

Food for thought.

 

No sense in proceeding like Disney's version of lemmings.

 

Think about it.

Eli Levine's insight:

What possesses people to jump off cliffs and not look first is beyond me.

 

Still evolving that kink out of the system, I suppose.

 

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A Look Back and a Look Forward

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So, you think we're an intelligent, reasonable, rational, and well put together species on the whole?

 

Ok.

 

Just remember that we are the same species who has spent most of our recorded history fighting amongst each other over which deity, made up spiritual path, or religious law is superior or correct, even though the universe has been pretty consistent with the laws and boundaries that are actually in place and are actually effecting our lives here and now, in spite of the chatter that we make up.  We're the same species who has fought with each other in times of plenty when there was no survival need for the competition over resources.

 

We're the species who has consistently allowed, enabled, and supported the same type of baboonish people to rise to places of power, control, authority, and responsibility.  And, when given the opportunity to do away with them through acts of violence or peaceable elections, the people we put in charge become, again, the same baboonish group that we ousted in the first place, having learned no apparent lessons from their predecessors.  We enable, allow, and encourage people to ruin our environment, our societies, our homes, and our homelands for the sake of something that we've made up; something that we do not really need and should not really want past a certain point or produced in a certain manner.  We even aspire to be like these same individuals and do the same things wrong that they've done to us and themselves.  Why?  Because we're told that that's the way we should want it.  Because most of us really don't have a clue about what will make us happy internally, nor have we been encouraged to seek that inner happiness in Western culture.  Even the Buddhists, the people who allegedly train in finding inner peace and happiness deliberately don't necessarily do this stuff well.

 

So, here we are.

 

Alive and kicking, for what point or purpose I don't know, about to all die as a result of our collective and individual stupidity, senselessness, and carelessness for our own selves, let alone, for the larger society and environment that we live in.

 

I gotta tell you, humanity, I'm pretty damned disappointed in what we've been up to for the past odd 200,000 years.  Yes, we've made civilizations, yes, we've done some really cool things.  But what was the point of any of that stuff if we individually and collectively can't figure out how to even be well and happy on this plane of existence?  What is the point if we're just going to kill ourselves over stuff we don't need and shouldn't really want?

 

Think about it.

 

Because this is your life on the line too, don't you know; your happiness, your well being, your survival.  If that's worse less to you than the amount of marginal money that you're making, your priorities are probably messed up and, more importantly, your brain is probably not a functional or healthy one for your own sake and well being, let alone, for all of our sakes and well being.  What's the point in being rich for being rich?  What's the point in making money in ways that kills you and everyone you need and could want?

 

Think about it.

 

Eli Levine's insight:

Honestly, I feel like an alien sometimes amongst these monkeys.  I don't value their Gods, or their religions, or their beliefs in how things work.  I just try to figure out how to be well in my own right, and how to achieve that happiness empirically and demonstrably.

 

Don't know what I'm doing here, if all that's going to happen to these chimps is death, destruction, and chaos.  It's not like I'm going to be able to help them help themselves or to prevent them from making their mistakes.

 

What a silly species.  No wonder they're about to die off.

 

Idiots.

 

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Recession 'led to 10,000 suicides'

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The economic crisis in Europe and North America led to more than 10,000 suicides, according to figures from UK researchers.
Eli Levine's insight:

And this is just a rough estimate.  Laissez-faire economics kills when it's put into place, owing to the irresponsibility of the financiers and corporations and the disincentive to be responsible when faced with the prospect of turning a larger profit or moderating one's actions and demands in light of common reality and common well being. 

 

This is what conservatism does to people and to societies.  It enables the excess of liberty and freedom of a few people (because there's only so much freedom and liberty that you can potentially have as a human being) who questionably deserve it, while  denying it to the general public who actually do the work that produces the wealth that they, the rich, enjoy in excess.  They complain about greed, and yet do nothing nor want nothing to reign them and their class in from it.

 

The business class and the investor class seem to be nothing more than a pack of insolent children who resent having an adult's necessary presence to keep their behavior from becoming self-destructive and self-harming, in the grand scheme of things.  They have forgotten what happens when they remove the controls on their behavior.  Quite frankly, I'm personally inclined to let them continue on this path until they're killed off by the rest of society, because they didn't get the message after Franklin Roosevelt came in and saved their bacon with the New Deal.  It's either we let them kill themselves (and the rest of us) off, or we put them into psychiatric wards for having an obsessive compulsion for money, material wealth, and financial gain beyond what they can use or need.

 

Take your pick kids.

 

Either sit down, shut up, and acknowledge how you're bound to the SOCIETY.

 

Or get wiped out as a class of individuals. 

 

The choice is up to ya'll; you're old enough that you should know the difference and to make that choice.  Just remember that the whole of society will self-correct and, thus, correct yourselves, either through peaceable or violent actions.

 

The choice is up to you.

 

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Why income redistribution doesn't hurt growth

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A new study shows that it actually enhances economic expansion, but the "correct" amount of redistribution is a value judgment
Eli Levine's insight:

Exactly.

 

You need so much money to be able to buy a theoretical maximum amount of usable goods and services.  Once you cross over that maximum (which changes, depending upon the quantity and quality of goods and services that are available) it stands to reason that you don't need much additional income and that your greed is unjustifiable and non-rational.  As a matter of fact, it's also self-debilitating, as you're preventing other people from being able to purchase a wider variety and better quality of goods and services, thus limiting economic growth potential, eliminating competition from the market, and generally rigging the whole thing in favor of companies who produce garbage at higher than what the market price would otherwise be for that garbage.

 

You have no idea how many times I've heard people in the business sector blame greed for the problems of the world.  Yet these folks who are so cavalier about being not greedy in word are the same folks who fight tooth and nail against any attempt to reign in the greed that they exhibit in practice.  Not only is their mental state all messed up, but it's also hurting themselves and others through denying society the method of overcoming their personal greed without resorting to violence, overthrow, and revolution.

 

It is society, acting through the government, who is meant to handle those affairs.  It is the society who holds government to account through elections or revolutions.  If the rich fear the government so much, the best thing that they could do is not block voters from having a say in government.  If the rich are so responsible, reasoned, and rational, they also wouldn't block government from stepping in to do what is needed and reasonable for the economy, in the economy.  A businessperson just knows his/her business, which is only one little piece of the economy.  A government official is meant to know the economy as a whole, including all business, all actors, and the environmental context in which it works in.  That is why we ideally don't allow business people to operate the mechanisms of government, unless they have some proficiency at knowing how ECONOMIES, ENVIRONMENTS, and SOCIETIES work, and not just a business.

 

Let people do the jobs that they're inclined to do.  Don't interfere with the other's business.  And, above all, recognize that a government's business supersedes that of a business, because that is how you produce the economic, ecological, and social environment in which a business can thrive, thus fueling the society and the economy within the limitations of the environment.

 

We're run by idiots.

 

And they're businesspeople.

 

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The Beginning of a Caliphate: The Spread of ISIS

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With Tuesday's seizure of Mosul, Iraq's second largest city, the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria notched a major victory in its campaign to create a new country containing parts of what had part of both Syria and Iraq. On Wednesday, the insurgents continued their march south, taking control of Tikrit, the hometown of Saddam Hussein.

 

The story of ISIS's spread -- and its influence -- is one that begins in Syria, where the group has been waging a brutal insurgency against the regime of Bashar al-Assad and, increasingly, other more moderate and secular rebel groups. The map above depicts the areas of Syria under its control. The group's influence is bounded by the Free Syrian Army in the west, the Kurds in the north, and pockets of government influence. 

 

Tags: Syria, Iraq, MiddleEast, conflict, political, geopolitics.


Via Seth Dixon
Eli Levine's insight:

These folks are no good.

 

They're as dangerous, mean-spirited, and delusional as the conservatives of our own society.

 

Motivated by religious fervor (doesn't matter which one it is), and an authoritarian desire to impose their vision of how a perfect society ought to be, these people ought to be put into mental health clinics and given actual treatment for being dangers to themselves and dangers to others.

 

We, the United States, cannot, and should not, do anything to stop ISIS initially.  We should let them take over, let their brutality lead to popular insurgency against them.

THEN, we ask the people of the region, collectively, whether or not they want our assistance in removing ISIS from control and influence in their society.  We want them to be turning these folks in, to be reporting those who are seeking to join these conservative movements to authorities.  Then, we can advise the authorities to treat the incoming prisoner like the mentally ill and psychologically disturbed/traumatized individuals that they seem to be.

 

We need a mandate and a request from the people living in their SOCIETIES, before we can go in and fight (if we're going to do such a thing, given our current state of war weariness and spent accounts).  We should not be taking direction just from their governments, and we shouldn't read their governments' requests as the need and will of their general public.

 

When fighting these kinds of conflicts, it's of the utmost importance that you maintain popular legitimacy and the mandate from the people to use force against what would otherwise be a persistent and deep-seated problem.  These conservatives can only be removed from the social scene when the public wants them to be removed AND, you must be as kind, benevolent, and effective as possible at handling the people afterward.  No impositions, no expectations; just let them lead their lives on their own, once you help them remove a tumor from their society that they want to have removed.  Nothing more.  Nothing less.

 

Think about it.

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Jacob Crowell's curator insight, October 6, 2014 3:06 PM

ISIS has demonstrated how geographies are ever changing and how disputes over borders are constantly occurring. ISIS is looking to reshape the political geography of the land from the Mediterranean to Iran's Zagros mountains into a caliphate. The movement of ISIS has been influenced by geography. The group is contained to transportation corridors because reaching into the countryside is difficult. Furthermore, the physical geography of Iraq and Syria has made ISIS an extremely powerful force. They have taken control of many of Iraq and Syria's oil fields. ISIS has also shifted population geographies causing mass displacement as they advance. In Syria 2.8 million people have fled, 200,000 have come to Iraq. ISIS is causing major shifts in the political, demographic, and economic geographies of Iraq and Syria.

Samuel D'Amore's curator insight, October 6, 2014 3:25 PM

ISIS has shown both in the past and more recently that it is far from a group of disorganized rebels and in reality is a competent and dangerous organization. Recent land grabs show that ISIS not only seeks to gain land mass but an economic base. This map shows the the strategic land ownership corresponds with oil fields throughout the area. ISIS' leadership is competent enough to know that in order to run a large Caliphate and support it's troops a viable source of income is needed.

 

Nicole Kearsch's curator insight, October 6, 2014 3:29 PM

With the help of maps one can see how much of an impact ISIS has had on Syria and Iraq.  We can see where ISIS has taken over, where they have attacked and what areas they have their people around.  This gives people an idea of where they have been and where they may be going.  Another map shows what cities have been overtaken by ISIS.  This gives exact points where ISIS has terrorized the people to gain control.  Another map shows just Syria and the control that ISIS has in that country.  The fourth map is important to a larger portion of the world.  It has Iraq and the where ISIS has taken over and where the area of control is in reference to where oil fields are.  The last map refers to the people in Syria and where they have taken refuge to stay safe from ISIS.

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A Path to Success in Iraq

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In Iraq, we need to weed out, separate and allow ISIS to alienate itself from the general public of the Sunni population of Iraq.  The only way to do this is to provide them with an alternative to the highly unpopular Nouri al-Malaki, who has governed Iraq under strict sectarian lines, rather than as a unified society of peoples banded together by some possibly drunk British diplomat's lines in the early 20th century and a common history of existence together.

 

I do not believe that ISIS will be a healthy alternative for Iraqi society.  I think that their rigorous religious and ideological devotion will drive their people to possible rebellion against them, if given enough time and liberty to do as they're inclined to do.  The may be adapting tactics as we speak to make themselves more appealing than Nouri al-Malaki.  But remember, that if the Sunni had an alternative to Nouri al-Malaki in Baghdad, they may be more willing to switch sides and join with a moderate and reasonable unity government.

 

Extremists and conservatives may get the burst of support in the short term when societies are perturbed.  However, just as the Ayatollahs and conservatives are facing push back in Iran, so too will the conservatives of Iraq face their push back in time.  The key to fighting them is to provide psychologically and physically better alternatives who actually follow through on the appropriate courses of action for the general public and to otherwise leave the society to govern itself according to its own logic.

 

Therefore, I would hope that the US advises al-Malaki to hold elections and resign from power as a gesture of support for the country (which may not actually remain a country, given the historic relations of the societies who were bunched together in that territory by said drunk British diplomat in London.  There is a chance to save Iraq as is.  But it will require the sacrifice of its current leader and attitude towards leadership, neither of which seems actually feasible to play out in reality.

 

Shame.

 

But oh well.

 

Think about it.

Eli Levine's insight:

We go to war again.

 

Hopefully for better reasons and better effects.

 

Think about it.

 

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Libertarian Foibles

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A government of a society focuses on the systems level of its given society and acts as an agent within the context of the context of the larger societal system that it is apart of on the international level.

 

In the US, the state, local, county, and tribal governments are all actors constrained by the hegemony of the larger federal government.  However, the federal government needs to work with each of these governments and the other actors and agents in a local community (including and not limited to business leaders, non-profit organization, churches, community groups and individual residents) in order to effectively carry out domestic policy.

 

The problem with Libertarianism is that it is only focused on the individual agents' level of existence.  It does not have a system-wide focus or lens that enables its followers to enact or see or desire policies that benefit the individuals living in the context of the larger social, economic, and ecological systems.  In order for the individual to be well and to have an optimal level of well being, health, and survivability, you have to look at the making changes in the larger social system, thus effecting the ways that the agents behave and perceive the world, thus allowing them to actually realize and achieve for their own selves their own individual levels of happiness and well being.  A well funded, well conceived, and well operated educational system with good people filling that system is essential for the physical and psychological well being of the individual living in a society.  A healthcare system that is not for profit and operating to deliver health instead of financial returns on financial investment not only improves worker productivity and public health, but it also improves the ability for the individual to live a life free from the threat of disease and injury that can otherwise ruin their livelihood and well being.  Their religious devotion to "liberty" and "freedom" blinds them and inoculates them from feeling empathy towards the suffering that is created when the system's administrator is laissez-faire and permissive of abuses by private elites or negligence towards the health and quality of life faced by the people to whom the leadership of our society is responsible to.  In seeking liberty without having a functional and effective state apparatus, the Libertarians, in practice, put the cart before the horse and expect a society to operate in a healthy manner magically.

 

If the Libertarians wish to have their own country to manage as they see fit, then I welcome the experiment, provided that they do not run interference with those of us who would rather have an effective, functional, responsive, and benevolent state.  Ideology will only get a society so far, while empirical function, research, and calculated action can truly create a world of value to the people who live in it.

 

Imagine a garden, one that is tended to using empirical knowledge about botany and is proactively tended to, and one that is simply allowed to go fallow.  Eventually, weeds will over take the laissez-faire model and the garden that was meant to feed the gardener and his/her family will prove useless to them.  Too much chaos is never a good thing in the short or long term.  That's what Libertarians fail to accept and appreciate, owing to their deviant psychological inclination towards chaos and uncertainty.  The garden that is proactively tended, using empirical knowledge of how things interact and empirically grounded techniques that are developed, improved upon, and implemented appropriately will more likely produce sustenance for the family in question.  Its weeds are kept at bay, its plants are allowed to grow in according to nature (note, that the gardener does not force them to grow in a particular way, but allows them to grow naturally), and its environment adapted to, with the worst bouts of weather mitigated and prepared for with recovery techniques ready to be deployed when appropriate.

 

If you'd rather live in a world infested by weeds, with the productive plants driven out or killed than be my guest.  Just understand that it is only as a result of your own biases and your own brains' inclinations and nothing that you have or had any real control over to begin with.  We are just ticking along with what our brains perceive and do.  No actual freedom present in our world.  Why bother rigging ourselves for self-destruction for it?

 

Just sayin'.

 

Think about it.

Eli Levine's insight:

I don't know how people cling to political ideologies when there are so many truths out there that can be seen, observed by everyone, including the ideologues in question.

 

So many mental gymnastics to maintain belief in things that don't actually work.  It's just as bad as religion without truth, except this infiltrates our secular halls of power and then makes choices based on these incorrect and sub-optimal beliefs that effect everyone else.

 

Unbelievable....

 

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Ukraine to sign EU deal this month

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The new president of Ukraine says he will sign a controversial association agreement with the EU on 27 June, as fighting rages in the east.
Eli Levine's insight:

I think this is happening way too fast and without having the support and consensus of a third of the country (who happens to occupies the main economic heartland of Ukraine).

 

If I were in Mr. Poroshenko's place, I would be working to build reconciliation and understanding amongst the Russian and Ukrainian people living in Ukraine.  What Mr. Poroshenko is doing, however, is simply asserting Kiev over what actually are legitimate concerns that are held by the Russian-Ukrainian people of the south and east of the country.  What are they going to do if they stop receiving orders from Russia for their goods?  What is going to happen when Russia clamps down on the natural gas supplies that heat and fuel Ukraine's economy?

 

It's amazing to me how silly the Kiev government is acting, considering it's going to need support from both Russia and the EU in order to fix its economy.  Furthermore, I don't see why they're making overtures to be with the EU directly when they know that that is going to push Russia to be more assertive in other areas.  The sanctions that the US is deploying in Russia are being circumvented by the Chinese and other powers.  If anything, this is going to make Russia less dependent on the well being of the West and, thus, make the cost of Putin going against the West cheaper than it already is.  We've given up and, apparently, encouraged Ukraine to give up that influence for the sake of the Ukrainian's perceived ability to beat up on its Russian citizens (which has proven to be not the case anyway).  Ukraine may have very little experience with democracy and principles of democratic inclusion.  However, the West apparently failed to advise them to reach out to their Russian citizens.  Thus, we have chaos in Ukraine when we could have had something closer to order.  Vladimir Putin may be funding and funneling money and resources to the rebels.  However, if the Ukrainian government had included the Russians into the transition process from the start, would there have been any rebels willing to take those weapons in the first place?  If there were rebels, wouldn't they have been turned in by their compatriots for being socially illegitimate and defined as criminals against a legitimate social authority than seen as rebels against an illegitimate one?

 

Think about it.

 

Because this is how you fight insurgencies and rebellions.  It is not through force, but through listening, trying to comprehend, and then making reasoned adjustments that you actually follow through on and carry out.  Force only exacerbates the problem and creates more resistance that eventually does get loose on you.  Even if it doesn't get loose, you're in constant fear of it becoming loose.  Why waste the time, money, energy, and peace of mind to get what usually is something that is beyond your reasonable reach as a governing person or faction?

 

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A Letter to Friends

Dear Conservatives from Any Culture,

 

Greetings!

 

I'm writing this letter as a friend and fellow human being who is concerned about your health.  Lately, it's come to my attention that you've been accepting and believing some very strange "facts" and "truths" about this world and how it can function.  I'm concerned that you all may be just a bit off base with regards to how you're sensing, perceiving, and working with reality for your own sakes, let alone, for all of the sakes of those who are on the receiving end of your decisions, directly and indirectly.

 

Rest assured, that I don't mean to leave the ideological Left out of my critique as well.  Goodness knows there are enough genuinely crackpot ideas out there that haven't been put away.  But it has, as of late, primarily been coming from your end of the political spectrum, especially with regards to the production and development of actual policy makers making actual policy for our society and amongst the societies of the world.  I know that it's actually a bitter pill to swallow and that you're not likely to listen to me anyway.

 

But that's a big part of my point: you don't listen and you don't care to listen about the needs, thoughts, opinions, desires, and wants of the rest of the social world that is around you.  I mean, toddlers are taught to "listen to their bodies" in order to help them figure out potty training and how to alert adults to when they're ill.  It is not apparent that you all have made the next step to listening to the social and ecological world that is around you for cues as to what is needed from you when you sit in seats of power, consequence, and authority.  As a matter of fact, you tend to proactively disregard those messages which cue you and yours in to what you and yours need to do when you're in government to maintain a reasoned balance amongst everybody and the environment, and then impose your own vision of what you'd like done over those evident and apparent needs of the general public relative to the environment that is around you.  I'm telling you all this as a friend, and as someone who doesn't want the world to be self-eliminate because of your disinclination to accept, work with, and adapt to facts that are around you and are apparently apparent to everyone else who is living on this planet, in this society, and in the context of our environment and universe.

 

Please, for the love of goodness and all that is holy, sit down and cease to control the reigns of society, or else I will not guarantee your individual and collective safety as the public fumes at the dysfunction, ineffectiveness, and callousness towards the public that you all have generated.  Crops are going to start dying off, because of YOUR environmental policies.  People aren't going to be able to afford to buy the basic necessities of life in spite of working over 40 hours a week at multiple jobs, thanks to YOUR labor and economic policies.  And when all is said and done, you will all be left with your more amoral and "pragmatic" friends in the business and financial community with nowhere to run and nowhere to hide.  You can either go quietly into mandatory psychiatric treatment, or you can be mowed down by the mob like Qaddafi was just 3 years ago.  Personally, I don't care at this point so long as you're all removed from power.  You're all dead people anyway.  The only thing you have an inkling of control over is how you're remembered and, in your cases, how you go down.  We can either label you and your ideological progeny as dangers to themselves and dangers to others, or you can be wiped out by the public you had so much contempt for.

 

This is Governing 101.  If you don't like running the risk of being killed in office, don't bother running for office.  If you're not going to govern a society in such a way that you won't be able to square that basic requirement for survival, then please, let other people have a shot at it.  You're only digging your grave deeper, and the public will remember what you did to them.

 

Think about it.

 

-Eli Levine

Eli Levine's insight:

This is the simplest and nicest way that I can put it.  Life is sometimes the price for poor governance, and these conservative and ideologically types don't seem to get it.

 

Thus is how it was, is, and always will be.


I can't cry anymore.

 

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Why liberals like walkability more than conservatives

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New poll data shows that Democrats and Republicans are deeply divided when it comes to urban density versus suburban sprawl.

Via Alison D. Gilbert
Eli Levine's insight:

What can I say?

 

It's an interesting finding, and the causation is going to be obscure and dependent upon the individual.  But not a terribly surprising one.

 

What are the conservatives but the anti-social amongst us?  Angry, barbaric, cruel, and callous towards anything and anyone who is opposed to their views or somehow perceived as being different.  And, no, the numbers don't show that extreme liberals have the same problem.  Just click the link to the poll to see that fact in play.

 

It will be interesting to see if these findings remain consistent if done by other polling centers, asked in the same way and done in the same fashion.  But I fear for this country's well being, and not just because of the ideologues on either side who care nothing about the empirical and repeatable nature of the world that is around them.

 

Think about it.

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Alison D. Gilbert's curator insight, June 17, 2014 7:45 PM

I am a text book liberal it seems. I did not even do it on purpose. I like to live in a town where I can walk everywhere and have a strong sense of community.

 

 

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The Highest-Paid CEOs Are The Worst Performers, New Study Says

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Across the board, the more CEOs get paid, the worse their companies do over the next three years, according to extensive new research. This is true whether they’re CEOs at the highest end of the pay spectrum or the lowest. “The more CEOs are paid, the worse the firm does over the next three years, as far as stock performance and even accounting performance,” says one of the authors of the study, Michael Cooper of the University of Utah’s David Eccles School of Business.


Via jean lievens
Eli Levine's insight:

Interesting.

 

It's been known that, in fields of work that require cognition, being paid higher amounts actually decreases production and overall performance.  The conclusion that was reached in the study (which was done in Harvard and replicated in India) is that you pay people in top, cognitive positions enough money to make it not be a concern for them in order to maximize productivity.  The same study also found that, for menial tasks, being paid more increased productivity and performance.

 

If you want to figure out how to configure compensation packages in your company to maximize performance, here is the data to show you the general principles of what needs to be done.  Minimum wages are good, but too high of a minimum wage will kill small companies and start ups.  Once you have a solid revenue stream established, it makes sense, based on the research, to divvy up the funds equitably amongst the white collar and blue collar employees, such that the white collar folks, especially on top, get paid a smaller ratio in proportion to the blue collar workers.  After all, you can only have so much wealth and derive so much well being from that wealth.  What's the point of spoiling productivity in your own company for the sake of it, let alone, for the sake of the whole economy that will benefit from having wealth be significantly more equitably distributed to all of those who produce the wealth?

 

It's not like a McDonalds or Starbucks job is actually all that easy a job to do.  Those who think otherwise clearly never worked or have forgotten what it was like to work in cramped, hot, fast paced environments dealing with the general public.

 

The science is there.  Whether anyone will listen to it without some coercion is another issue.

 

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Why I left libertarianism: An ethical critique of a limited ideology

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I value many contributions libertarianism makes to challenging power. But here's why I no longer associate with it
Eli Levine's insight:

Honestly, the biggest problem with any ideology is that it only creates a haze over reality that is tinted towards your preconceived notions and desires.  This haze will not guide you accurately throughout the ocean of life, the universe, and everything.  In fact, it may run you into shoals and rocks that you could have avoided, had you been trying to look at reality for how it works and what is present in it.

 

A society is a complex adaptive system, just like an economy, environment, and a government.  The goal of a government should be to examine the interrelated nature of these facets of the world, in order to understand how to make policies that produce optimal well being and the greatest chances for sustainable survival within a society.  Otherwise, it's just a load of philosophical crud that comes out of the mouth of people who have no idea and no inclination to have an idea about how the world actually is and works.  This then makes them a danger to themselves and a danger to others, because they are not only not seeing, but refusing to see what is present and how things connect to one another, thus, increasing the odds that they'll cause harm in a society to either individual members and/or to the collective whole.  Furthermore, due to the persistence of the ideological haze, it is more likely that they'll persist in their incorrect assumptions, beliefs, and poorly prioritized desires, thus increasing the odds of entrenched dysfunction both within the government and within the whole of the society.

 

We may not have all of the facts and relations in yet.  But we should be able to tell now, that philosophical arguments are a poor substitute for scientific research and empirical study.

 

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Economic Origins of Dictatorship and Democracy: Daron Acemoglu, James A. Robinson

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Economic Origins of Dictatorship and Democracy [Daron Acemoglu, James A. Robinson] on Amazon.com. What forces lead to democracy's creation? Why does it sometimes consolidate only to collapse at other times? Written by two of the foremost authorities on this subject in the world

Eli Levine's insight:

I think that the general conclusions that these two reached are most excellent and accurate to how things work in the empirical world.

 

used linear economic equations and the principle of Occam's Razor to overly simplify and inaccurately demonstrate the roots of the phenomenon that they otherwise did a good job of describing.  Personally, I would have chosen to use case studies and surveys of case studies to get as fine an image as is possible of what is happening in as many cases as possibles, in order to generalize upon the basics characteristics, functions, and dynamics in basically democratic and non-democratic societies.

 

I would have also liked to have seen a little more about how culture influences political, social, and economic choices, because it seems to me, at the very least, that culture: collective and individual interpretations of consciousness and the world that is around us, is at the roots of how we see the world and make decisions with regards to the world over rational and optimal decisions.

 

Culture is, for example, one of the key reasons that the US will not likely adapt for an extended period of time a collective, authoritarian system of government that many East Asian societies adopt.  Even in "democratic" East Asian societies, there is much more deference to the top leadership and collective needs in business and in society than there is in the more egalitarian and individualistic United States.  This changes the ways we individually and collectively make decisions as a society, which is one of the chief questions at the root of political science and economics.

 

A most interesting book.

 

 

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The Eccentric Genius Whose Time May Have Finally Come (Again)

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Resurrecting the legacy of a man who understood, and feared, the future of automation.


Via Claudia Mihai
Eli Levine's insight:

Indeed, what will we do if and when we have no more work to do?  Leisure time Is only so good for humans (in my experience of being stuck with leisure time).

 

While I'm more inclined to accept chips in the brain to enhance and correct for the biological errors in perceiving and working with reality, I'm also leery of the potential for outsiders to hack them if they're not done right, or for an EMP burst to knock people out permanently.  Technology is racing faster than our ability to keep up, consider and figure out the potential kinks BEFORE we make our moves.  Even when this species is being highly intelligent, we still show ourselves to be nothing more than inconsiderate and non-sensing monkeys.

 

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Revealing the Patterns of Civilization

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History is filled with patterns that can be studied mathematically.  The rise and fall of empires can be analyzed as a dynamic system to understand how groups of people can come together and achieve complex goals.


Via jean lievens
Eli Levine's insight:

I really really want to read this book.

 

However, judging from the review and what I'm aware of in our social world, I think we're honestly headed towards a separation of our own country and the possible devolution into civil war as conservative culture clashes with everyone elses' desires.

 

Unless something changes in the make up of our social world; unless the conservatives die off or get into treatment, I don't see a way for us to maintain a united society in the long term (which can be altered, depending upon what happens in the short term).  We're splitting as a society and I think that the majority of the society is going to, at least in the short term, go over to the conservatives.  However, I think that over time under the conservative's auspices, their society is going to breakdown and collapse while the bulwark of our common society will either come over to the progressive's side (if the progressives handle their political and technical affairs well).  I see the conservatives lashing out as their society collapses, thus hastening their defeat in the eyes of the general public through the illegitimate imposition of an increasingly radical and idealistic vision of how they think society ought to be (even though it's not the way society is or how humans, Americans or otherwise, work or want their world to be).  I can only hope, that the radicals of the left, the so called "progressive" extremists will either be gotten into treatment for their own delusions and psychiatric problems vis a vis governing effectively for their own sakes, such that a more practical, sustainable, and better functioning world can be brought into existence without their nonsensical bs getting the way of it happening.

 

I'm not liking the way things are shaping up.

 

However, unless something changes in the way we think about the conservatives, ourselves, and the state of our world, I see us falling into the trap of civil war, revolution and overthrow of the Capitalist State of America.

 

It was an unsustainable and unrealistic dream to begin with.  It's definition of success was and is too narrow and unrelated to what we need for survival, well being, health, and quality of life, and its methods for achieving these unsustainable and unrealistic goals were going to have to be too contrived and/or forced in order to make a significant difference in the content or make up of our social function and our social practice.  The United States, I think, is ultimately a progressive society who wishes all individuals can find their state of genuine happiness without infringing upon others' state of happiness.  We may have forced other societies to be as we are artificially, and that is more in accordance with our conservative side, even when it was the progressives who carried it out.  The intention in some of the cases, I think, was honestly good.  The methodology for carrying it out was and is ineffectual at realizing its objectives, and the end goal of any empire to make everyone be like or subjugated to the metropole is as unrealistic and unworkable as well.

 

Capitalism has failed.  The conservatives won't realize it until it's too late and we'll all be more likely to be dead because of the delay.  I really do not want the power to make everything be right with the world, nor can I expect to actually be able to make everything be right with the world.  However, I would LOVE to have the ear of the many people who can make a difference in the world, such that we're all able to live at peace with each other rather than in competition or in a state of subjugated and subjugator relations.  Most societies don't work on the principle of having an elite for very long, unless the elite humble themselves to the needs and problems of the entire rest of the social, political, and environmental worlds.  The top must bend down to help the bottom if it is going to expect the bottom to naturally want to rise up to help the top.  Hierarchy isn't necessarily a bad thing provided that the state of nature that it is occurring in is in the constant perspective of the people who live in that social system, nor is it something that's easily going to be avoided.

 

Therefore, a kind, responsive, attentive, and positive approach to leadership is necessary in order to get a society to bloom.  It requires the wisdom to know when and how to intervene and when and how to not intervene.  We don't have time to pussy-foot or listen to the non-rational and unreasoned excuses and problems from the conservative right or the ideological left.  It is time that we reunify as a society under our inherently liberal roots, or else, divide, and let us reunite under the terms of civil war and conflict with the non-rational and those who are merely scared of their little world vanishing in light of common reality (which it's going to do anyway).

 

This is it.

 

What's it going to be, America?

 

World?

 

Humanity?

 

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Iraq cleric issues Shia call to arms

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Iraq's most senior Shia cleric urges people to take up arms against Sunni-led insurgents sweeping across towns killing hundreds, the UN says.

Eli Levine's insight:

Not quite the move I would have done.  By making this only a Shi'a vs. Sunni fight, the Ayatollah has opened the possibility of this becoming another pure ethnic blood bath.  Where is Moqtada al-Sadr to bring together Sunni, Shi'a and Kurds alike to fight against the common conservative enemy?

 

ISIS is not going to be popular once and if they take over.  They're inanely bloody, heavy-handed, and idealistically authoritarian to boot, a combination that rarely creates massive popularity over time.  ISIS is a problem for everyone in Iraq and the world: a militant, authoritarian, ideological conservative force that is going to ruin people's lives should they get any real authority and relative power within a given society.

 

The same can be said about all conservative forces in our society.  They match neither the religious messages that we have nor the basic principles that our societies are founded upon.  Conservatives and conservatism are menaces to all of our peace, stability, and well being.  Look what they do when they have power.  Look at the laws that they actually support and the practices that they carry out and condone in order to get those laws done.  They are neither based in empirical reality, nor are they even grounded in basic tenants of human kindness, well being, and happiness.  It is time that we each and all, put the conservatives into the mental health care systems that they belong in, to be treated, cared for, and democratically removed from holding office.  The conservative brain is not fit for office.  And, this is history talking, not myself.

 

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Undoing Conservatism and the Influence of Ideologues

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Getting rid of conservatism and ideologism in a society is like getting rid of a tumor on the collective mind that is society.  You can't do it unless the general public wants it to be done, and you must do it in the most socially accepted, legitimate and, ultimately, benevolent manner that you can do it.

 

These folks, I think, are mostly mentally ill.  Too much focus is spent on the small, individual sense of how things ought to be.  Too much violence is spent on the general public to MAKE the rest of the society be according to the conservatives' patterns and tastes.  Not enough emphasis is placed on how the society is, where the society needs/wants to go, and how the people of any given society want to be and define themselves.  They are, I think, primarily callous people who are not in the least bit concerned with the actual well being of the society or the environment, and who are so wound up in weird rationalizations of their behaviors, actions, and beliefs to notice just how far off they are from where people want and need to be.

 

Personally, it doesn't matter to me how they choose to live their lives.  What I don't like is how they keep insisting on butting into everyone elses' lives, to make people, myself included, to be subjected to their social norms and their incorrect beliefs about how I am, how I should be, and how the world that we all live in operates.  It's one thing when you lead your own life in a self-imprisoned manner.  It's another thing to run for office, to make laws that other people are subject to, and to enforce those laws upon the general public.

 

Conservatives live in a world of their own creation.  They seem to lack the inclination and curiosity to seek out how the world actually works, and chooses instead to stick with the way that they think it works, regardless of whether it's actually how it works.  This leads to them being incredibly dangerous when they are given control and/or influence over governments, societies; they don't and won't know what they're looking at and will not come to the best possible conclusions from it, for their own selves, let alone, for all of their societies.

 

Bear in mind, that the ideologues of the left aren't any better.  Too much emphasis on belief, not enough on the real world and the practical.  This being said, ideological progressives aren't likely, at the moment, to organize and rise to real power, nor should they ever really be allowed to in the first place.  I would not replace the tyranny of the conservatives for the tyranny of the ideologues.

 

So, like the ideologues of the left, the only sure way to get rid of the conservatives is to let them hang themselves through their actions.  Let society find out what it's like to live in a real conservative paradise.  They'll be sick of the violence, the repression, the ineffectiveness in time.  It's just a shame that it will take so long to undo something that is so intuitively bad for each and all of us.

 

Think about it.

Eli Levine's insight:

My only wish is that we handle the conservative menace to our societies as well and as nicely as we possibly can.  I honestly think these are people who have no conception of anything larger than their immediate social circle and no concern for the well being of others or the environment to boot.

 

Straight jackets and treatment.  No bullets or prison.

 

It will be kindness that wins the day for the grounded progressives and the rest of humanity as well.  It is the best possible path that we can go down, for our own sakes.  I would expect nothing short of benevolence, understanding, empathy, and care from those who are actually human in the head.

 

Think about it.

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