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Book Review – Among the Creationists: Dispatches from the Anti-Evolutionist Front Line by Jason Rosenhouse

Book Review – Among the Creationists: Dispatches from the Anti-Evolutionist Front Line by Jason Rosenhouse | Conformable Contacts | Scoop.it

Being one of my occasional forays away from geology into the general creation-evolution debate:  YEC biologist Todd Wood reviews a journalist's investigation into the world of  ID and YEC.  Both reviewer and author are not easily pigeonholed into the standard caricature of atheistic humanist or Christian creationist, and I tend to agree with a lot of the points that both of them make.

 

Samples:

 

"Early in the book, he confesses that interacting with creationists changed his outlook. “They are no longer defined by a few odd beliefs you have heard that they hold. They become actual people, with depth and personality and reasons for the things they believe” (p. 15). This personal experience leads him to conclusions that I have to suspect aren’t very comfortable for him. Whereas he affirms the usual claim that “the concept of an infallible source of information about nature entails the abandonment of the scientific method” (p. 51), attending the International Conference on Creationism (ICC) seems to have softened that judgment. At the ICC, he found creationists…who, so far as I can tell, are motivated by entirely the same considerations as mainstream scientists. They are trying to understand nature as best they can. That they begin from a premise most of us would regard as highly improbable has no relevance to that determination (p. 188)."

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"On other subjects, Rosenhouse provides quite simple refutations that are literally impossible to argue with. Consider the common creationist argument that mutations are always detrimental or lead to a loss of information, as found in the work of Werner Gitt or John Sanford. I have always felt uncomfortable with such claims, mostly from the perspective of their implausibility. My own experience with genomics leads me to believe that most mutations do next to nothing, good or bad. Leave it to a mathematician to notice a more glaring problem:

It is a logical impossibility for all mutations to degrade information. Mutations can reverse themselves, you see. If the mutation changing A into B causes a loss of information, then the reverse mutation from B back to A must represent a gain of information (p. 65)."

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Futurity.org – Science and faith: Geologist investigates floods

Futurity.org – Science and faith: Geologist investigates floods | Conformable Contacts | Scoop.it

A different view than that of David Coppedge's of "The Rocks Don't Lie."  (http://www.scoop.it/t/conformable-contacts/p/2414770181/ceh-rocks-don-t-lie-but-liars-rock)

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101 American Geo-Sites You've Gotta See, by Albert B. Dickas - Mountain Beltway - AGU Blogosphere

101 American Geo-Sites You've Gotta See, by Albert B. Dickas - Mountain Beltway - AGU Blogosphere | Conformable Contacts | Scoop.it

Mountain Beltway extracts the sites from the book and bolds the ones he's seen.  Now what would be cool if someone could make a kml of all these sites.

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Geology and Genesis: how Noah’s flood shaped ideas but not landscapes

Geology and Genesis: how Noah’s flood shaped ideas but not landscapes | Conformable Contacts | Scoop.it
A complex history is recorded in The Rocks Don’t Lie.

 

Yet another view of "The Rocks Don't Lie."  Sample:

 

"The result is a halting olive branch that almost seems to argue with itself. By trying to criticize both sides equally to create a comfortable middle ground that most people will identify with, Montgomery ends up with a very vague notion that always seems a few steps away from definition. Still, he can hardly be expected to produce gold where thousands before have unsuccessfully scratched in the dirt."

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CEH: Rocks Don’t Lie, But Liars Rock

David Coppedge reviews "The Rocks Don't Lie: A Geologist Investigates Noah's Flood."  (see http://www.scoop.it/t/conformable-contacts/p/1342984676/the-rocks-don-t-lie-w-w-norton-company_

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The Rocks Don't Lie | W. W. Norton & Company

The Rocks Don't Lie | W. W. Norton & Company | Conformable Contacts | Scoop.it

Should be interesting.  Due out in August 2012.

 

From the blurb:

 

"How the mystery of the Bible's greatest story shaped geology: a MacArthur Fellow presents a surprising perspective on Noah's Flood.

In Tibet, geologist David R. Montgomery heard a local story about a great flood that bore a striking similarity to Noah's Flood. Intrigued, Montgomery began investigating the world's flood stories and-drawing from historic works by theologians, natural philosophers, and scientists-discovered the counterintuitive role Noah's Flood played in the development of both geology and creationism. Steno, the grandfather of geology, even invoked the Flood in laying geology's founding principles based on his observations of northern Italian landscapes. Centuries later, the founders of modern creationism based their irrational view of a global flood on a perceptive critique of geology. With an explorer's eye and a refreshing approach to both faith and science, Montgomery takes readers on a journey across landscapes and cultures. In the process we discover the illusive nature of truth, whether viewed through the lens of science or religion, and how it changed through history and continues changing, even today."

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